<div>Wow, I should have remained a lurker. I've seen some of the venom on 20/20, and didn't think my comments would provoke such nastiness.</div> <div> </div> <div>Ok, I did not mean to denigrate anyone living in a trailer. I should have said "white trash." Are there no terms of insult left?</div> <div> </div> <div>The point I was trying to make... poorly... is that many people come to Moscow from different parts of the state and the country, and although I love local earth-friendly businesses like the Co-Op and Paradise Creek Bicycles and One World Cafe, I feel that the arrival of snobby Kirker merchants has helped raise the bar for Moscow.</div> <div> </div> <div>I am not saying I approve of Pastor Wilson or his philosophy - but I do think that a) Bucer's helped wake some Muscovites up to the fact that businesses like Cafe Spudnik and the coffee place that was where Papa John's now is filled a vital role, and that residents NEED cool cafes and
hangouts downtown; and b) I'd rather have NSA located downtown than the empty GTE building.</div> <div> </div> <div>Do I like the NSA/Kirker thing? No. But at least they have class, and they seem to have provoked the community in a positive direction. I grew up in Southern Idaho, and the Kirkers are far less offensive to me than the Mormons that controlled my hometown - at least the Kirkers drink alcohol and enjoy wild sex (at least if some of their blogs are to be believed).</div> <div> </div> <div>Penny<BR><BR><B><I>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">OK, Penn, you deserve a double shot of my ire.<BR><BR>"Trailer trash"? Is that the way you see your community -- your neighbors <BR>are either "bigots" with nice stores, or "Latah County trailer trash"? <BR>Really? Is there something about living in a modular or mobile home that
<BR>makes people unworthy of your esteem? And are you so needy of fab downtown <BR>shopping experiences that you would excuse what you call bigotry? Are <BR>people so easily categorized? Dismissed? Embraced?<BR><BR>Might I be correct in guessing that you don't get invited out much?<BR><BR>Somehow, in the course of two posts, you've managed to show yourself not to <BR>be one of Moscow's finest citizens, and I can say that no matter where you <BR>live.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From: Pennsylvania Place <PENN_PLACE_BOISE@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Getting a.....<BR>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:50:25 -0700 (PDT)<BR><BR>You know, I understand why people have problems with Kirkers and NSA <BR>folks... I myself have dealt with a young elitist married couple that could <BR>not have been more insincere and fake to me and my family dispite our <BR>efforts to be neighborly.<BR><BR>That said - I really *do* admire how the Kirker/NSA element
is helping to <BR>class up Moscow. I do not patronize their businesses, but it is nice to have <BR>clean, sharp stores and restaurants on Main Street. Not everyone in this <BR>town - even young adults - want to shop at the stupid mall or college <BR>student holes like the Pita Pit or Papa Johns.<BR><BR>I'll take elitist snobs over Latah County trailer trash any day of the <BR>week, even if they are bigots. At least their stores are nice. They have <BR>good<BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR>David wrote: Ooooohhhhh, creepy again. BTW JFord, did you get a good, <BR>comprehensive list<BR>of everyone who's been to West of Paris?<BR><BR><BR>>From: "J Ford"<BR><BR>>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>Subject: [Vision2020] Getting a.....<BR>>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:29:31 -0700<BR>><BR>>A. You, Doug F, do NOT have a license to do construction work, electrical<BR>>work, engineering work...basically you have a license to drive and I<BR>>seriously question the wisdom of
providing you that.<BR>><BR>>B. You are listed as having a "legit" business which the Moscow Chamber of<BR>>Commerce says they "highly recommend" and are "proud to (have) as a member<BR>>of the Moscow Chamber of Commerce" because you provide "quality services<BR>>and products." The State of Idaho thought that was interesting since you<BR>>licenses expired in 2005 and they have NO new application for you on file <BR>-<BR>>ever.<BR>><BR>>C. Your contracting license (20186) expired on 7-31-2005 and your<BR>>Journeyman's license (19675) expired on 31 Aug 2005. So you saying you<BR>>have done "demolition work for Mike Hoffman" and you doing any kind of<BR>>electrical work and having your picture on web sites SHOWING you doing any<BR>>kind of electrical work is just wrong. As is having your name listed in<BR>>the Chamber of Commerce's MOST recent listing of businesses and your name<BR>>being WILLINGLY listed on a permit for electrical
work on Mike Hoffman's<BR>>yet to be purchased building on Main street is just wrong.<BR>><BR>>See: http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/213_Main_Elec_App.htm and<BR>>http://www.moscowchamber.com/Pages/ChamberMembers.asp?Letter=H<BR>><BR>>So maybe your "getting a life" is the wrong thing to say....mayhap people<BR>>should be saying "get a lawyer". For someone that espouses to be Christian<BR>>and a follower of Christ's to be doing such obviously illegal things <BR>should<BR>>be seeking the advice of a pastor. Too bad your church doesnae have one<BR>>you could turn to in such times.<BR>><BR>>Oh, and if you think Paul Kimmell taking your name down off the MCC web<BR>>site is going to help your case - it won't. Just like having your picture<BR>>taken off the other web site didnae help you...copies are easily made.<BR>>Just like your e-mails where you "confess" to be doing this type of work.<BR>><BR>><BR>>J
:]<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>>From: "Tom Hansen"<BR>>>To: , , ,<BR>>><BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] an apology<BR>>>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:03:25 -0700<BR>>><BR>>>Good, NC -<BR>>><BR>>>Glad to hear you have a life. Be gentle with it, though. Or else,<BR>>>"Comb-Over" will want it back.<BR>>><BR>>>Tommy Hansen<BR>>>Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving<BR>>>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in<BR>>>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly<BR>>>used<BR>>>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"<BR>>><BR>>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>>From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com <BR>[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>>>On Behalf Of heirdoug@netscape.net<BR>>>Sent:
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:14 AM<BR>>>To: idahotom@hotmail.com; heirdoug@netscape.net; kjajmix1@msn.com;<BR>>>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] an apology<BR>>><BR>>>Tommy,<BR>>><BR>>>I got one! I also have a life!<BR>>><BR>>>Doug!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>>From: idahotom@hotmail.com<BR>>>To: heirdoug@netscape.net; kjajmix1@msn.com; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Sent: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 5:46 AM<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] an apology<BR>>><BR>>>Lemon-O "No Clue" Farris -<BR>>><BR>>>You really ought to get a day job.<BR>>><BR>>>Now, off with you to the sand box. Your buddies , Arnold and dick<BR>>>Sherwin, await you. You boys can play "Show and Tell" or you could<BR>>>discuss knocking "heads" off while you extend something. You know. We<BR>>>really should put that "Adults
Only" sign back up.<BR>>><BR>>>Question, though, NC - Exactly what do you do at Heirloom Electric?<BR>>>Nothing that requires a license I hope?<BR>>><BR>>>Tom Hansen Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>> >From: heirdoug@netscape.net >To: kjajmix1@msn.com, <BR>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] an apology >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:31:16<BR>>>-0400 > >Keely, > >I do have one question with regard to the apology you<BR>>>are giving to<BR>>>all >of the fine folks here. > >Am I supposed to extend forgiveness to <BR>you<BR>>>for biting my head off or >for you getting caught biting my head off or<BR>>>for you biting my head<BR>>>off >without cause knowing that there may be a cause later on? Let me <BR>know<BR>>> >and I will gladly extend it. >
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