Tom,<br> <br> Well, I am glad we are agreeing on some level. <br> <br> You asked:<br> <br> <font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="color: rgb(178, 124, 81);">"To expand on </span><st1:city style="color: rgb(178, 124, 81);" w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:city><span style="color: rgb(178, 124, 81);">’s red/green apples analogy. Yes. The lower-cost green apples would benefit those people who prefer apples, but cannot afford the more expensive red apples. The question then becomes, “How are you going to be able to supply your green apples over a large region and still maintain low costs?”, unless you can enter the apple market at the same level (and volume) as your red-apple competitor."</span><br> <br> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">You do that by making the market predicable by fixing the future price of gasoline. If you are an investor,
you will invest only in products that you know will be cheaper than the fixed rate of gasoline. It eliminates a great deal of the risk, and more investors will invest, giving it the capital to compete with gasoline. <br> <br> </span></span></font><font style="color: rgb(191, 95, 0);" color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"For the sake of energy conservation and our environment, the government must take action in expanding current alternate fuel research programs and make a clear and unwavering statement that vehicles manufactured after a certain year WILL NOT be designed to operate on fossil fuels." </span></font><br style="color: rgb(191, 95, 0);"> <font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="color: rgb(191, 95, 0);"></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I don't agree with forcing people to do things
when the free market which allows choice can accomplish the same goal. If gasoline simply becomes intolerably expensive compared to the alternative, why make laws and force people against their will? Further, I don't agree with outlawing all gas powered vehicles. There will no doubt be instances where gasoline is still the best or only means for powering some machines. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> </span></span></font><br><b><i>Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} pre {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt;
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navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">To expand on <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:City>’s red/green apples analogy. Yes. The lower-cost green apples would benefit those people who prefer apples, but cannot afford the more expensive red apples. The question then becomes, “How are you going to be able to supply your green apples over a large region and still maintain low costs?”, unless you can enter the apple market at the same level (and volume) as your red-apple competitor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial; color: navy;">The free market (pronounced “Exxon”, “Standard Oil”, etc. etc) has already pretty much dictated what fuel we will use. For the sake of energy conservation and our environment, the government must take action in expanding current alternate fuel research programs and make a clear and unwavering statement that vehicles manufactured after a certain year WILL NOT be designed to operate on fossil fuels. This approach worked in converting to lead-free fuels. It can work to eliminate our dependence on fossil fuels altogether.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Moscow</span></font></st1:City><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">, <st1:State w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;">"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com] <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:50 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Tom Hansen; 'Art Deco'; 'Vision 2020'<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Vision2020] Inconvenient Truth -- What WE REALLY HAVE TO
DO</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">"Simply coming up with an alternate fuel source will not work. It needs government support." Tom Hansen<br> <br> Tom,<br> <br> Governments don't solve problems, individuals and entrepreneurship does. All government can do is stand in or out of the way, or move problems from one location to another. <br> <br> Let the free market determine WHAT alternative fuel we will use. Setting a fixed price of $7.50 per gallon in the next 5 years, lets the market know what the going rate will be and they can invest and plan better. If the government forces people to buy bio-diesel and someone comes up with a better more economically and environmentally
sound method, we couldn't use it. The first of a new technology is usually not the one society sticks with. Let the capitalists present us with there different options, put them on the market, and then let Americans pick one, two or three options. Maybe even having two different types of cars, a Coke and Pepsi competition driving down the prices, instead of one fuel source. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> </span></font><br> <b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="City"><u1:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <u1:shapedefaults u2:ext="edit" spidmax="1026"/> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <u1:shapelayout u3:ext="edit"> <u1:idmap u3:ext="edit" data="1"/> </u1:shapelayout> </xml><![endif]--></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType>One good idea would be to re-invest in bio-diesel research. The program was promoted and supported under the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Clinton</st1:place></st1:City> administration and terminated under the Bush administration.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Simply coming up with an alternate fuel source will not work. It needs government support. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Remember the “Get the Lead Out!” campaign that was mandated by government policy? It worked. If the government mandates that all vehicles will be fueled with bio-diesel by the year 2012, you can bet your last gallon of regular gas that Exxon, Standard Oil, etc. etc. will do their best to get into the bio-diesel market.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Has anybody got any ideas on how to develop some SERIOUS interest in alternate fuels, the kind of ideas that will “spark a fire” of major interest within the George “All for Oil” Bush administration?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Tom Hansen<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div>
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