Sunil has stated repeatedly, that he believes that if we cannot find each and every terrorist guilty of a crime by a trial, we should let them go. Since it is not possible to try every terrorist and get a conviction, and he knows this, and we cannot detain them otherwise, Sunil is suggesting we let many of them go. I think that is supporting the terrorists. Creating a situation where the US military cannot defend us by placing the new and unprecedented restriction of a trial and conviction for every foreign enemy combatant shooting at us before we can lock them up until the conflict is over, cannot be anything but favoring the enemy. <br> <br> I think that Sunil is dead right in his disagreement with Bush on foreign policy for opposing torture.. But deadly wrong in making sure every enemy of the United States gets a full paid trial on us before we can defend the country. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>
<br> <br> <br><b><i>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I've tried not to post responses to Donovan after Roger's comments a couple <br>of weeks ago, but I'm sick of his crap. First he and now Tony have made the <br>irresponsible and incorrect statements that I support terrorists or <br>terrorism; certainly Donovan has made the claim that I only defend <br>terrorists and sworn enemies of the U.S.<br><br>I have tried to explain to Donovan offline with no success that I oppose the <br>prison in Guantanimo; I oppose the war in Iraq; I oppose the torture of <br>prisoners and the abandonment of the Geneva Convention; I oppose this <br>administration's foreign policy. As far as I know, we're still allowed to <br>object to our govenrnment's actions. If he wants to say that means I defend <br>terrorists, then he's going to do that,
but he's not going to be able to <br>defend his lies with anything I've said.<br><br>I do object to Donovan's lies about me. I think he's making dangerous and <br>irresponsible statements about me, and I don't think I should have to sit <br>here and put up with them. Sure, I could say no one takes anything he says <br>seriously, but I have no idea who might come across his swill and believe <br>it.<br><br>I never mentioned Tony's wife in my post. If Donovan read that in my post I <br>have to question his literacy.<br><br>Tony told me I was not allowed to change the subject, and I made the <br>apparently incomprehensible joke that he mistook himself for my wife. <br>Donovan, get your big reading book and look up 'pronouns.' I did not and <br>would not make fun of Tony's wife. I don't know if he's married and don't <br>care.<br><br>Tony, I have never said I think I'm intellectually superior to you. Quit <br>being so sensitive. I won't be comparing myself to Lincoln,
and I'm no <br>fancy pants lawyer. I don't think of myself as one, and I don't think I'm <br>better than anyone else because I'm a lawyer. But if you make incorrect <br>statements about a legal issue, after a while I'm going to point that out to <br>you, as I did with your First Amendment statements some time ago, and as <br>with your recent statements about freedom of expression.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><br>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>>To: Joe Campbell <joekc @adelphia.net="">, Tony Simpson <br>><tonytime @clearwire.net=""><br>>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] stop the false accusations against Sunil<br>>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT)<br>><br>>Sunil attacked Tony and made a reference to his wife. Why aren't you <br>>condemning that Joe? Is making references to people's relatives that you <br>>don't like now acceptable if the person is not a liberal, Joe. Appears to
<br>>be the case.<br>><br>> I hope others join me in condemning attacks on people's relatives and <br>>spouses, and not defend people that do so.<br>><br>> I never said Sunil supported Terrorism, Joe. I said he defends <br>>terrorists. Which he has done repeatedly. One can defend the person <br>>without condoning the actions of that person.<br>><br>> Best,<br>><br>> _DJA<br>><br>>Joe Campbell <joekc @adelphia.net=""> wrote: Tony,<br>><br>>It is one thing to call Sunil offensive names and accuse him of being an <br>>elitist. The first is just childish and the second merely indicates that <br>>you just don't know Sunil. Both of these sorts of things only make me <br>>laugh.<br>><br>>But in our contemporary context it is just plain irresponsible and wrong <br>>to suggest in anyway that Sunil is a supporter of terrorism. Both you and <br>>Donovan have made this absurd accusation -- neither
one of you even <br>>attempting to support the claim in any way. You need to get a grip.<br>><br>>I hope that others will join me in condemning these kinds of accusations.<br>><br>>--<br>>Joe Campbell<br>><br>>---- Tony Simpson wrote:<br>><br>>=============<br>>Suenil: Yep pal, I need to go and "oppress someone."<br>><br>>Anyone who supports terrorists instead of his own country I will oppress.<br>>Anyone who revels in rubbing everyone else's nose in his supposed<br>>intellectual superiority I will oppress. Anyone who sees no injustice in<br>>the premeditated murder of the innocent, I will oppress. Anyone who tries<br>>to deny freedom of expression to those with whom they disagree, I will<br>>oppress. Anyone who wishes to weaken or destroy the institutions that have<br>>held civilization together, I will oppress.<br>><br>>So get used to it Lawyer Man, I'm not going anywhere.<br>><br>>Despising
arrogant and smug elitists, --TONY<br>>----- Original Message -----<br>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam"<br>>Cc:<br>>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:24 AM<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom<br>><br>><br>> > Tony,<br>> ><br>> > You're the one who brings up my law degree, not me. Since you inquired<br>> > about how I passed the bar, I thought I'd answer you.<br>> ><br>> > If you're well-informed, Tony, you're hiding your light under a bushel.<br>> > Now<br>> > I'll get out of your hair; you probably need to go oppress someone.<br>> ><br>> > Sunil<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >>From: "Tony Simpson"<br>> >>To: "Sunil Ramalingam"<br>> >>CC:<br>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom<br>> >>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:02:33 -0700<br>> >><br>> >>Sunil,<br>> >><br>> >>Me mistaking myself for your wife?
I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea<br>> >>what you are talking about. But pal, that equation would NEVER work out<br>> >>THAT way. The reason for the "hon" comment is old news, weren't you<br>> >>paying<br>> >>attention councilor?<br>> >><br>> >>Ya' know, Your fancy pants law degree really doesn't mean SHIT to me,<br>> >>Sunil. Abraham Lincoln had no formal schooling yet he was as brilliant <br>>and<br>> >>persuasive as any "credentialed" man of his time. As it is with you and<br>> >>I.<br>> >>We are both very well informed, just not necessarily in the same exact<br>> >>areas. You could really do with a dose of humility, Mr. Constitutional<br>> >>law<br>> >>hotshot.<br>> >><br>> >>Now go sue somebody or something..... -Tony<br>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunil Ramalingam"<br>> >><br>>
>>Cc:<br>> >>Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:36 PM<br>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>>For someone who comes across as a homophobe, Tony, it's odd to find you<br>> >>>mistaking yourself for my wife. However, it prepared me for finding <br>>your<br>> >>>response to Andreas and your use of the endearment, 'Hon,' for him. <br>>Hey,<br>> >>>not that there's anything wrong with it, but does his wife know about<br>> >>>this?<br>> >>><br>> >>>But since you're neither she nor the boss of me, I guess I'm allowed to<br>> >>>change the subject.<br>> >>><br>> >>>I will give you one clue about how I passed the bar exam, since you<br>> >>>brought<br>> >>>it up: On the Constitutional law section, I discussed the established<br>> >>>law<br>>
>>>of the United States, not the imagined law and jurisprudence of Tony<br>> >>>Simpson. Until you're the Fuhrer, I will recommend this approach to<br>> >>>those<br>> >>>preparing for that exam.<br>> >>><br>> >>>I understand that you oppose flag burning. That puts you with almost <br>>the<br>> >>>entire population of the United States, since this hardly ever happens.<br>> >>>I've never seen it in person; have you? But saying it's not speech <br>>does<br>> >>>not<br>> >>>make you right, even if you say it in multiple posts. It's also pretty<br>> >>>ineffective speech, but speech it still is.<br>> >>><br>> >>>Sunil<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>>>From: "Tony Simpson"<br>> >>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam"<br>> >>>>CC:<br>> >>>>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Celebrate freedom<br>> >>>>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:29:17 -0700<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>Sunil,<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>No, you are not going to be allowed to change the subject. Address my<br>> >>>>point about the difference between license and freedom.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>Standing in opposition to double talking lawyers, --Tony<br>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunil Ramalingam"<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>Cc:<br>> >>>>Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:44 AM<br>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom<br>> >>>><br>> >>>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>>=======================================================<br>> >>>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >>>serving
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