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<DIV><FONT size=4>Do you have any idea how much properly designed, smart traffic
signals cost?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com
href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A> ; <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:24 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Line and 6th</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>That would be good .But I don't understand why MSD doesn't buy
one now.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Ivie <<A
href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">the_ivies3@yahoo.com</A>></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>Donovan,</DIV>
<DIV>How about a compromise? Put up 4-way stop signs until a grant can
go through for a stop light. This way there will be something there in
the interim.<BR><BR><B><I>Donovan Arnold <<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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are you people on crack? Line and 6th (a three way, not four way stop) is
backed up for blocks several times a day. Cars are half way to Deakin every
time I go through there. And college students don't all get out off classes
at exactly the same time like they do on Mt. View and D. I don't use
that road. But I think people will be very upset if a four way stop is
placed on that intersection instead of a stop light. Letting 20 cars go at a
time is much faster then one at a time, and
safer.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I>Art Deco
<deco@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT size=4>How do we know that a four-way stop at Mountain View and
D will clog traffic for blocks? Do you have access to traffic
studies and the engineered conclusions drawn from them the rest of us are
ignorant of?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>There are several busy intersections with
four-way stops that function fine without clogging traffic for
blocks: Blaine and 6th, Blaine and White, Hayes and D, Line and 6th
(although this can back up traffic for about one block on the east side at
peak times, but no big deal), A and Line, are a few examples.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=rhayes@turbonet.com
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com">roger hayes</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:22 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Mountain View and D</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I am not for a stop sign on Mountain and D. I am however,
for a stop light. A four way stop will have Mountain View and D street
clogged for blocks. That will force more people into taking alternative
routes speeding through neighborhood streets and down 6th Street (when and
if that road ever reopens). <BR><BR>It sounds logical to put a four way
stop there. But I think the volume of traffic is great and this will
create greater problems on that corner and elsewhere in town. How much
longer does it take for four cars to come to a stop, then go one at a
time? Multiply that by the number of cars, if will a good 10-15 minutes
longer to across town on that section of road.
<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I>roger hayes
<rhayes@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:
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A timed light is an improvement, but kids and walkers cross that
<BR>> intersection from dawn to way past dark. The problem does not
just <BR>> occur during the morning and afternoon. A stop sign would
be a cheap, <BR>> effective way to slow the traffic enough so drivers
would be more <BR>> aware of children and pedestrians in the
crosswalk. We'd probably want <BR>> to leave the blinking yellow
light though.<BR><BR>Roger Hayes<BR><BR>><BR>>> I think the
city has viewed Mt. View as an arterial for the increasing<BR>>>
numbers of houses on the outskirts of Moscow.<BR>>> As a person
who frequently crosses this intersection on foot and by<BR>>>
bicycle, I think a 4 way stop sign at D and Mt. View is a good
idea<BR>>> indeed. People tend to really zip through that area. It
will, however,<BR>>> change the nature of Mt. View from commuting
arterial to urban street.<BR>>> But given all the schools, the
pool, and rec. centers in the area, the<BR>>> change will not be a
bad thing.<BR>><BR>> Roger Hayes<BR>><BR>>> From: cynthia
nichols <CYNTHIANN0 @mac.com=""><BR>>> To: Bruce and Jean
Livingston <JEANLIVINGSTON @turbonet.com=""><BR>>> CC: john weber
<JWEBER @ci.moscow.id.us="">, Nancy Chaney <BR>>> <NCHANEY
@moscow.com="">,<BR>>> bill lambert <BLAMBERT
@ci.moscow.id.us="">, Vision 2020<BR>>> <VISION2020
@moscow.com="">, Robert Stout <BSTOUT @ci.moscow.id.us="">,<BR>>>
john dickinson <JOHNDICKINSON @moscow.com=""><BR>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Public Works Meeting<BR>>> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006
07:27:40 -0700<BR>>><BR>>> This is a good idea. No sense in
making EVERYONE on Mountain View<BR>>> stop all day long when
there is only a problem twice a day. Or even<BR>>> having the
lights on Mtn. View blink yellow most of the day and blink<BR>>>
red during those peak-use times.<BR>>><BR>>> The city needs
to require the developer to finish the sidewalk on the<BR>>> east
side of Mountain View too-between Hillcrest and Rolling
Hills.<BR>>><BR>>> cynthia
nichols<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:21
AM, Bruce and Jean Livingston wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>>
Frankly, I don't understand why they don't put a traffic
light<BR>>>> there, set it<BR>>>> for blinking yellow
much of the day in the Mountainview direction,<BR>>>> but
run<BR>>>> it with actual red and green alternating lights for
the high<BR>>>> traffic, "kid"<BR>>>> times, say 7
a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even 6 pm given<BR>>>>
the "kid<BR>>>> use" of the athletic facilities all around that
intersection. The<BR>>>> traffic<BR>>>> back-up on D
St. can be significant, and a regimented crossing<BR>>>>
opportunity<BR>>>> that an actual red light on Mountainview
would provide is <BR>>>>
significant.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Parents would also be much
more likely to allow children to walk to<BR>>>>
school<BR>>>> if they had confidence in the safety of their
child when crossing<BR>>>> Mountainview at D
Street.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Bruce
Livingston<BR>>>><BR>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>> From: "Craine Kit" <KCRAINE
@verizon.net=""><BR>>>> To: "Vision 2020" <VISION2020
@moscow.com=""><BR>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21
AM<BR>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works
Meeting<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> Here are the
photos showing the flashing
lights.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Kit
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