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<body>This line is what makes your arguments hollow Tony.<BR>
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"Those who consistently favor state control verses local autonomy and freedom, are enemies."<BR>
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How can you advocate all the controls to be placed upon the citizenry (no flags will be burned, no gays will be wed, no women will have abortion etc...) and yet claim to be for freedom. I think you are your own worst enemy. You come across as a mean spirited crass individual who only wishes to lord his will over others. <BR>
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Forget it buddy, keep your controlling ideas away from me.<BR>
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James<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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> From: tonytime@clearwire.net<BR>> To: kjajmix1@msn.com<BR>> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:34:17 -0700<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!<BR>> <BR>> Yes Keely, you might support my right to free speech, as it is acknowledged <BR>> within the Bill of Rights. That is nice and all, but irrelevant. Flag <BR>> burning is not speech. It is thoughtless and ungrateful acting out, as I <BR>> correctly noted in my original post.<BR>> <BR>> Those who consistently support policies which would favor America's enemies <BR>> are enemies as well. Those who consistently favor state control verses <BR>> local autonomy and freedom, are enemies. Those who wish to disarm peaceful <BR>> citizens, leaving them and their families vulnerable to state tyranny or <BR>> civilian crime, are enemies. Those who advocate the premeditated murder of <BR>> the most helpless among us, are enemies. Those who feel the government is <BR>> justified in taking from one American the fruits of his production, and <BR>> giving it to another who chooses not to produce, are enemies.<BR>> <BR>> They of course would prefer not to be regarded as such. Indeed, they may <BR>> actually regard themselves as patriots, but the fact remains that their <BR>> behavior speaks for itself. Irrelevant apples and oranges comparisons <BR>> notwithstanding.<BR>> <BR>> Still fed up with America's domestic enemies, -Tony<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --Tony<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1@msn.com><BR>> To: <tonytime@clearwire.net>; <london@moscow.com><BR>> Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:05 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Because "subversive hippie" Bill London is my friend, and because Tony <BR>> > considers him, me, and others like us to be America's "domestic enemies" <BR>> > when we defend the rights of people to do things that are offensive -- <BR>> > such as "desecrating" a flag, as Bill put it -- I feel compelled to note <BR>> > that when we find Tony's speech to be sickening, vituperative, destructive <BR>> > and nasty, we still defend his right to say it.<BR>> ><BR>> > Which, I can't help but think, is a good indicator of one's loyalty to the <BR>> > principles of the Constitution guiding one's nation. Kinda not an enemy <BR>> > position in my mind.<BR>> ><BR>> > keely<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > From: "Tony Simpson" <tonytime@clearwire.net><BR>> > To: "Bill London" <london@moscow.com><BR>> > CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!<BR>> > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:28:33 -0700<BR>> ><BR>> > Leave it to a subversive Hippie like Bill London to praise those who would<BR>> > burn the American flag. Pathetic and loathsome. Flower child London <BR>> > says,<BR>> > "If I chose to desecrate a flag by burning it in an open place.... so <BR>> > what?<BR>> > That is free speech."<BR>> ><BR>> > What pure, unadulterated horseshit! There is no speech involved in such a<BR>> > juvenile, thoughtless, ungrateful and snotnosed activity. It is<BR>> > unpatriotic, typically liberal acting out. If that is free speech, Billy<BR>> > Boy, then it would be free speech for me to walk up to said burner and <BR>> > bury<BR>> > my boot a foot up his terrorist--enabling ass!<BR>> ><BR>> > Sick to death of America's domestic enemies, --TONY<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Bill London" <london@moscow.com><BR>> > To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107@hotmail.com>; <kerrybecker6924@hotmail.com>;<BR>> > <sslund@adelphia.net>; <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:13 AM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > Since you asked.....<BR>> > > a few of my reasons why I think a Constitutional amendment against<BR>> > > desecrating the flag is stupid....<BR>> > > 1. what is the problem? how many descrated flags are there?<BR>> > > 2. if I own the flag and choose to desecrate it by burning it in an open<BR>> > > place that will not cause a general fire, so what? That is free speech.<BR>> > > The flag is a symbol, and burning it is Constitutionally-protected.<BR>> > > 3. what is desecration? wearing a flag on the butt of your jeans?<BR>> > > wrapping<BR>> > > your used car in flags to sell it at a used car lot? getting a tattoo <BR>> > > of<BR>> > > flag upside down? Boy Scouts burning old flags?<BR>> > > BL<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107@hotmail.com><BR>> > > To: <london@moscow.com>; <kerrybecker6924@hotmail.com>;<BR>> > > <sslund@adelphia.net>; <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:21 PM<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >> Mr. London,<BR>> > >><BR>> > >> And just as they should. Why shouldn't the congress take one day out of<BR>> > >> their schedule in order to make flag burning an offense? If they focus<BR>> > on<BR>> > >> baseball why not on the flag?<BR>> > >><BR>> > >> Matt<BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >> >From: "Bill London" <london@moscow.com><BR>> > >> >To: "kerry becker" <kerrybecker6924@hotmail.com>,<BR>> > <sslund@adelphia.net>,<BR>> > >> > <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening<BR>> > >> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:33:43 -0700<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> >Yes, it is true that Chicago has (for the reasons Ms. Lund has<BR>> > > enumerated)<BR>> > >> >banned foie gras, because of the disgusting and inhumane way the birds<BR>> > > are<BR>> > >> >force-fed to create these inflated livers. Chicago has not banned <BR>> > >> >duck<BR>> > >> >liver, only foie gras.<BR>> > >> >And as for the reason, it's all a question of values, as the<BR>> > Republicans<BR>> > >> >say every year when they try to amend the US Constitution to end the<BR>> > >> >non-existant problem of people burning US flags.<BR>> > >> >BL<BR>> > >> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > >> > From: kerry becker<BR>> > >> > To: sslund@adelphia.net ; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:56 PM<BR>> > >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > This is absurd. The city of Chicago has taken the time to ban duck<BR>> > >> >liver?? - Meanwhile the inner city runs rampant with crime, poverty <BR>> > >> >and<BR>> > >> >drugs. Odd really.<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> > > -<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net><BR>> > >> > To: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening<BR>> > >> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:38:46 -0700<BR>> > >> > >Visionaries:<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >I have debated and debated about whether to post this or not, <BR>> > >> > but<BR>> > > I'd<BR>> > >> >hate<BR>> > >> > >for an unsuspecting person to go to West of Paris only to be<BR>> > >> >horrified.<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >I was deeply disappointed to see that West of Paris will be<BR>> > >> > selling<BR>> > >> >foie<BR>> > >> > >gras:<BR>> > >> > >http://www.westofparis.com/dinner_menu.html<BR>> > >> > >For that reason alone, I will refuse to patronize the business,<BR>> > no<BR>> > >> >matter<BR>> > >> > >how delicious other menu items look or sound -- it's a matter of<BR>> > >> >ethics for<BR>> > >> > >me.<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >The process used to make foie gras is animal cruelty, pure and<BR>> > > simple<BR>> > >> > :-(((<BR>> > >> > >Fifteen nations (including the UK, the Czech Republic, Denmark,<BR>> > >> >Finland,<BR>> > >> > >Germany, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland, and<BR>> > > Israel<BR>> > >> >--<BR>> > >> > >formerly the fourth largest producer in the world) have banned<BR>> > >> >force-feeding<BR>> > >> > >birds for foie gras production. The City of Chicago has banned<BR>> > >> > the<BR>> > >> >sale of<BR>> > >> > >foie gras, and Philadelphia is likely to follow. Beginning <BR>> > >> > 2012,<BR>> > > the<BR>> > >> > >production and sale of foie gras from force-fed birds will be<BR>> > > banned<BR>> > >> >in the<BR>> > >> > >State of California.<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >I won't go into the horrifying and graphic details of how foie<BR>> > >> > gras<BR>> > >> >is<BR>> > >> > >produced, but for those who want to learn more, you can check<BR>> > out:<BR>> > >> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras<BR>> > >> > >You can also Google it, but WARNING: there's a lot of deeply<BR>> > >> >disturbing<BR>> > >> > >(although accurate) information and photos you'll find.<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >Very disappointing that foie gras will be sold in *any* Moscow<BR>> > >> >restaurant<BR>> > >> > >:-(((<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >JMNSHO,<BR>> > >> > >Saundra Lund<BR>> > >> > >Moscow, ID<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good<BR>> > >> > people<BR>> > >> >to do<BR>> > >> > >nothing.<BR>> > >> > >- Edmund Burke<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006,<BR>> > >> > Saundra<BR>> > >> >Lund.<BR>> > >> > >Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision<BR>> > >> > 2020<BR>> > >> >forum<BR>> > >> > >without the express written permission of the author.*****<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >-----Original Message-----<BR>> > >> > >From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<BR>> > >> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> > >> > >On Behalf Of Daniel Foucachon<BR>> > >> > >Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:59 PM<BR>> > >> > >To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > >> > >Subject: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > > West of <BR>> > >> > Paris<http://www.westofparis.com/images/west_paris.gif><BR>> > >> > >Grand Opening<BR>> > >> > >Friday, August 18th, 2006<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >Now accepting reservations<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >Call (208) 882-4279<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >www.westofparis.com <http://www.westofparis.com/> | opening at<BR>> > > 6:00<BR>> > >> >p.m.<BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > ><BR>> > >> > >=======================================================<BR>> > >> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > >> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> > >> > > http://www.fsr.net<BR>> > >> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > >> > >=======================================================<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> > > ---<BR>> > >> > Windows Live Spaces is here! 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