<div>The Mayor suggested a pedestrian activated light, which I agree is a good idea. These are more expensive than a stop sign and usually require funding which takes several years. We could do a 4 way stop until pedestrian activated lights could be installed, if that is something our leaders would want to do. </div> <div> </div> <div>As far as blinking lights go...isn't there one at 6th and Blaine? But who notices it? I hit that intersection all the time and someone had to point the light out to me. </div> <div> </div> <div>One problem with "school zones" is that drivers assume the caution is during the school months and not during the summer children are also present.<BR><BR><B><I>Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Frankly, I don't understand why they don't put a traffic
light there, set it <BR>for blinking yellow much of the day in the Mountainview direction, but run <BR>it with actual red and green alternating lights for the high traffic, "kid" <BR>times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even 6 pm given the "kid <BR>use" of the athletic facilities all around that intersection. The traffic <BR>back-up on D St. can be significant, and a regimented crossing opportunity <BR>that an actual red light on Mountainview would provide is significant.<BR><BR>Parents would also be much more likely to allow children to walk to school <BR>if they had confidence in the safety of their child when crossing <BR>Mountainview at D Street.<BR><BR>Bruce Livingston<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Craine Kit" <KCRAINE@VERIZON.NET><BR>To: "Vision 2020" <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting<BR><BR><BR>> Here are the photos showing the flashing
lights.<BR>><BR>> Kit Craine<BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:00 PM, J Ford wrote:<BR><BR>> What I did not like was/is the Mayor's attitude that the citizens<BR>> of Moscow are too stupid to see a Stop sign much less heed it and<BR>> stop. She apparently has little appreciation for the intelligence<BR>> of all of us that use that road. It may, MAY take a time or two<BR>> for people to see the Stop sign but with a campaign of<BR>> notifications through the papers, news radio shows, etc, I believe<BR>> it would be a non-issue fairly quickly. As one person pointed out,<BR>> we all adapted rather well and rather quickly to the mess on<BR>> Washington and on 6th.<BR>><BR>> Given that attitude of hers, why would
putting a flashing light and<BR>> a sign saying "School Zone" be any different? What would make<BR>> people anymore aware and slow down anymore than a Stop sign?<BR>><BR>> J :]<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>> From: "Art Deco" <DECO@MOSCOW.COM><BR>>> To: "Vision 2020" <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting<BR>>> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:40:00 -0700<BR>>><BR>>> What exasperates me about the city's attitude to the problem at D<BR>>> street and<BR>>> Mountain View is that apparently those that should have, have not<BR>>> spent much<BR>>> or anytime observing on weekday mornings and afternoons when<BR>>> traffic and<BR>>> children are at their highest. Should you doubt the problem, when<BR>>> school<BR>>> starts, go and look for a morning or two.<BR>>><BR>>> But J Ford should not be surprised considering the length of
time<BR>>> to put a<BR>>> crosswalk across the Moscow-Pullman Highway near Tri-State. It<BR>>> was nice to<BR>>> get a cross walk and paths, but a pedestrian activated crosswalk<BR>>> stoplight<BR>>> on demand would lessen the problem that still exists.<BR>>><BR>>> W.<BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> From: "J Ford" <PRIVATEJF32@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>>> To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:52 PM<BR>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >I watched the PW Committee meeting today and wondered just who<BR>>> the City<BR>>> > Staff thinks they work for. It certainly did not look like they<BR>>> were<BR>>> > working for the safety and/or good will for the citizens. When the<BR>>> > discussion turned to a need for a four-way Stop sign on "D" and<BR>>> Mt. View,<BR>>> >
it<BR>>> > got kinda muddled as to why it was such a question - the safety<BR>>> of the<BR>>> > children and drivers who use that intersection SHOULD be the<BR>>> primary<BR>>> > concern. But even the Mayor seemed to think that the three or<BR>>> four people<BR>>> > who spoke up for the Stop sign were off base. And Walter Steed<BR>>> had some<BR>>> > interesting notes but even he seemed confused about his stand -<BR>>> 40(+)<BR>>> > people<BR>>> > in the space of 45min for one intersection is nothing to ignore<BR>>> and yet he<BR>>> > thinks it is.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > The fact that several people pointed out there are now four/five<BR>>> different<BR>>> > places of congregating children and families in that immediate<BR>>> area should<BR>>> > dictate the City needs to be cognizant of the safety issue that<BR>>>
people<BR>>> > face<BR>>> > every day at that intersection. As two people pointed out, the<BR>>> area is<BR>>> > expanding and more people are moving into the area almost<BR>>> daily. All this<BR>>> > does is increase the traffic in and out of the area and it<BR>>> should make<BR>>> > sense<BR>>> > to people that that traffic needs to be better controlled.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I would hope the entire City Counsel saw it as the Committee<BR>>> Members<BR>>> > seemed<BR>>> > to feel - the need is there and it would behoove the City to,<BR>>> for once,<BR>>> > use<BR>>> > preventative medicine BEFORE we have a child or car flattened.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > BTW - did anyone realize that the speed limit on that road is<BR>>> 35mph!?<BR>>> > Seems<BR>>> > a might fast to me. Especially considering there are
children<BR>>> in that<BR>>> > area<BR>>> > rather heavily during a major part of the year and during the<BR>>> daytime.<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> > J :]<BR>>> ><BR>>> > _________________________________________________________________<BR>>> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today -<BR>>> it's FREE!<BR>>> > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/<BR>>> ><BR>>> > =======================================================<BR>>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>>> > http://www.fsr.net<BR>>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>> > =======================================================<BR>>> ><BR>>><BR>>>
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