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<DIV><FONT size=4>The first posting of this was apparently lost in
cyber-space. This is a resend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Another excuse for bad
behavior</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>It seems like every time someone acts like an asshole or a
criminal in some way, some researcher makes up a name for it, claims it is a
mental illness, and applies for (and usually gets) a grant to study and to
promulgate the idea, thus giving it apparent credibility.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>What ever happened to promoting personal responsibility and
taking responsibility for one's own actions?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Besides the usual array of social misfits, we have seen this
kind of thing eroding the criminal justice system where criminal records are
expunged and similar actions taken that hide past misdeeds (withheld judgments)
so that the criminal can no longer be held responsible for their
actions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=donaldrose@cpcinternet.com
href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donald huskey</A> ; <A
title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">'Dan Carscallen'</A> ;
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 11, 2006 9:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Another excuse for bad
behavior</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Rose,<BR><BR>Thanks for the misinformed comments. But they are in
direct conflict with Dr. Tony Atwood in Australia and researchers at John
Hopkins Hospital. Asperger's cannot be overcome by simply educating it away!
Your comment is like saying we can get rid of deafness by teaching people how to
listen. The fact is the actual nerves in the brain that perceive nonverbal and
social cues in Asperger's and the nerves that perceive sound, respectively, are
missing, not there, gone, never fully developed. <BR><BR>Rose, people with
Asperger's are not stupid, they are simply missing the nonverbal and social
contexts because the "equipment" in the brain to read and interpret those cues
correctly and accurately is not there. Imagine not being able to tell accurately
when someone is mad, upset, frustrated, confused, happy, or shy unless they
actually tell you. And at the same time, people not properly reading your cues,
because you don't know how to send them out properly, they think you are upset
when you are not, or are being trying to be mean when you are not trying to be,
or they think you are being coy,and even self centered or a know it all. People
also will not disclose verbally that they are angry, irritated, happy, OK, fine,
or whatever. They expect you to read it on their body language, or know it. They
will also lie, and say they are fine, when in fact they are not fine. It really
can be frustrating and confusing. And not to mention how irritating it is to
another to be kept asking how they are feeling because that person cannot
properly read their non-verbal cues. <BR><BR>Teaching someone with Asperger's
syndrome what to do in a social situation is like teaching someone that is color
blind what to do when they see a red light, green light, or yellow light. They
understand what to do, they are not sure when the light is green, yellow, or
red, they cannot see it. <BR><BR>So, to put it clearly. People with Asperger's
frequently over or under react to a social situation because they do not
correctly perceive the social situation, not because they are assholes. Not
every person with Asperger's incorrectly interprets every situation in the same
incorrect manner. Many overreact or interpret the situation as a worse
interpretation possible because of many experiences of being burned (and not
even knowing it because they could not perceive it). Unless someone is with a
person with Asperger's to tell them, that is an incorrect or correct assessment
of the social situation, education will not help them. <BR><BR>I hope this makes
things clear. If not, well, at least I tried, but there is only so much I can do
an say to try and make it a little easier for you to understand.
<BR><BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><BR><BR><B><I>donald huskey
<donaldrose@cpcinternet.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Donovan writes in
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">“HA HA. You are a riot! I guess you get a kick out of
a guy with Asperger's who tries his best not to come across in written forum
as a know-it-all. As anyone and everyone with Asperger's or Autism
does.”</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Donovan, if your posts represent “your best” than
“your best” won’t do. Offering Asperger’s as an excuse for your belligerent,
perseverant, and frankly ignorant emails is a pathetic attempt to garner pity
while justifying your piss poor social skills. Asperger’s Paspergers’s -
sometimes a jackass is just a plain, ordinary, garden variety jackass.
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And, by the way, not *<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">every</SPAN></B>* person with Asperger’s or Autism
comes across as a know-it-all, as you claim. (I hope I am not remembering
correctly that you are doing graduate work in Special Ed if that remark
is a reflection of your attitude.) Appropriate social training from
family members, teachers, and counselors contribute significantly toward
enabling those with (an accurate) diagnosis of Asperger’s to become
successful, contributing members of their communities.
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