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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am only going to say this once, <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:City>. So, print out
this email and have somebody read it to you, ok?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>After having been subpoenaed for jury duty
several times in the past 4 to 5 years, I can honestly state that Sunil
Ramalingam DOES NOT restrict his services to terrorists and/or enemies of the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I further challenge you, Arnold, to
present evidence of this libelous claim of yours.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>"Life should NOT be a journey to the
grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the
other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
ride!'"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Donovan Arnold<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 10, 2006
11:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Sunil Ramalingam;
vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Minimum
wage</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sunil,<br>
<br>
It is not farcical. I use "Best", because that is what I mean.
I wish you the best. I just don't understand why you defend people that are
terrorists. I also understand what Dan was doing, I don't think you did. There
was a double meaning in the simile, both Ellen and Carl pointed it out for
those that didn't, sorry you missed it. Even if he didn't intend that, he
attacked me personally three times prior to that. This has been going on for
years. You anti-Wilson who think you are liberals, attack and attack anyone
that doesn't hate Doug Wilson, when they respond back, you act as they they
started the verbal bullying. Every time someone attacks you Sunil, or you think
someone is, you respond in kind, yet you condemn same reaction in others,
explain why you do that, Sunil? It is confusing to me. A word you should look
up is bullying. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
_DJA<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Sunil Ramalingam
<sunilramalingam@hotmail.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Donovan,<br>
<br>
Why do you use the farcical 'Best' after one of your ridiculous posts?<br>
<br>
You're such an ass. Wait, I insulted asses everywhere. Who will defend <br>
them?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Sunil<br>
<br>
PS Are you mad because I didn't call Dan a meanie for calling you a wall? <br>
Or was he using a simile? Do you need to take time off from one of your <br>
jobs to look those up?<br>
<br>
<br>
>From: Donovan Arnold <br>
<donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com="">>To: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam @hotmail.com="">,
vision2020@moscow.com<br>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:09:52 -0700 (PDT)<br>
><br>
>Well Sunil, we know it cannot be you that defends me because I am not a <br>
>terrorist and sworn enemy to the people of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> and that <br>
>seems to be the only people you have been willing to defend.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> _DJA<br>
><br>
>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam @hotmail.com="">wrote: Oh great, now <br>
>someone's going to have to defend him. Dan, stop calling him<br>
>a pig, you big meanie.<br>
><br>
>There.<br>
><br>
>Sunil<br>
><br>
> >From: "keely emerinemix"<br>
> >To: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com, privatejf32@hotmail.com,<br>
> >vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>
> >Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:28:13 -0700<br>
> ><br>
> >Gee, I think we've hit a new low here.<br>
> ><br>
> >keely<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >From: Donovan Arnold<br>
> >To: J Ford<br>
>, vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>
> >Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:38:19 -0700 (PDT)<br>
> ><br>
> >Well Jackie,<br>
> ><br>
> > FYI, I have three jobs. How many do you have? I bet you don't have
one<br>
> >and collect a government check or someone else is supporting you. I <br>
>don't<br>
> >have time to be vandalizing people's property, harassing bookstore <br>
>owners,<br>
> >launching frivolous lawsuits against the school district, and
inundating<br>
> >the police and city officials with vindictive filings against what my<br>
> >neighbors are doing. How do you make a living Jackie, because we sure
do<br>
> >know you are not stable enough to maintain a regular job, much less
make<br>
> >enough to feed two people.<br>
> ><br>
> > Second, I have been to a couple school board meeting. You were at one
<br>
>of<br>
> >them, sitting there yelling at the top you lungs at Phil Roderick for<br>
> >having an opinion different then yours, and mysteriously, his property
<br>
>was<br>
> >vandalized too.<br>
> ><br>
> > Third, so you ask how MSD could save money, one of the best ways for <br>
>the<br>
> >MSD and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
to save money would be to drop you off on an island<br>
> >somewhere, or ship you back to <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Alaska</st1:place></st1:State>,
so we don't have to hire so many<br>
> >city employees, pay frivolous lawsuits, repair damages to our
property,<br>
> >and pay more in insurance premiums.<br>
> ><br>
> > That would be good start.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >"Pastor Wilson, the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> is the absolute
example of what a <br>
>cult<br>
> >is NOT.<br>
> >There is NO brainwashing, there is NO physical/pyschological abuse.<br>
> >There is NO condemnation of the soul if someone choses to leave.<br>
> >There is NO part of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> which worships
anyone else but God and<br>
> >HIS word.<br>
> >The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> AND Pastor
Wilson do answer to people outside of our<br>
> >town and community.<br>
> >A cult answers only to itself." Jackie Woolf Thu, 11 Dec 2003<br>
> ><br>
> > Best,<br>
> ><br>
> > _DJA<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >J Ford<br>
> wrote: Dictate to us...em, sorry -<br>
> >ENLIGHTEN us as to how you feel the MSD is<br>
> >wasting money on the children? Just where should the budget be cut?<br>
> ><br>
> >Sounds to me you are verra familiar with the affects of an illegal<br>
> >substance; howbeit, since you have NEVER made it to a committee or
School<br>
> >Board meeting, please - spread your light this-a-way and let the city <br>
>know<br>
> >what plan you think would work and just how would it be paid for? And <br>
>just<br>
> >how would you, who apparently has all knowledge, propose to get the<br>
> >community to accept anything you come up with any more readily than
the<br>
> >plans MSD has proposed?<br>
> ><br>
> >Since most of the jobs in any given city/town/state is private or <br>
>privately<br>
> >corporate, what other sector should be providing jobs? Not everyone
can <br>
>be<br>
> >a "professional student" receiving loans and grants to make
it through<br>
> >life,<br>
> >so please let us know what other sector is out there to provide jobs
that<br>
> >hasnae.<br>
> ><br>
> >And while you're in a mood of explainging things - what the living
lights<br>
> >is<br>
> >a "pot smoking circle"?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >J ;|<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > >From: Donovan Arnold<br>
> > >To: Tom Ivie , keely emerinemix ,<br>
> > > gweitz@moscow.com, ringoshirl@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>
> > >Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:09:32 -0700 (PDT)<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Tom,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > You can pay for it by getting the MSD to stop wasting money in
our<br>
> > >current school system. Second, they can get the private sector to
help<br>
> >out<br>
> > >in many job fields. A company wants nothing more than a bunch of <br>
>highly<br>
> > >trained workers straight out of school. Third, if the MSD would
come <br>
>up<br>
> > >with a proposal that didn't sound like something contrived during
a <br>
>high<br>
> > >school pot smoking circle they might be able gain community
support.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > _DJA<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Tom Ivie wrote: How do you pay for that when we<br>
> > >can't even pass bonds for buildings and the state has to step in
to <br>
>fund<br>
> > >that?<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Donovan Arnold wrote: . . ."under Donovan's<br>
> > >plan, parents will have tons more free time --<br>
> > >what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us
signed up <br>
>for<br>
> > >as<br>
> > >parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start
smoking or<br>
> > >having sex."-- Keely Mix<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >Keely,<br>
> > ><br>
> > >I know you are the expert on education being on the school board
and<br>
> >all.<br>
> > >But, as I understand it, all parents have already been having
sex.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >_DJA<br>
> > ><br>
> > >keely emerinemix wrote: Of course, under Donovan's<br>
> > >plan, parents will have tons more free time --<br>
> > >what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us
signed up<br>
> >for<br>
> > >as<br>
> > >parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start
smoking or<br>
> > >having sex.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >keely<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >From: Donovan Arnold<br>
> > >To: Jerry Weitz , Shirley Ringo ,<br>
> > >vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>
> > >Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT)<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Jerry,<br>
> > ><br>
> > >I agree with you 100% regarding the workforce training. The
school <br>
>system<br>
> > >needs to start kids one year earlier, let them out one year later
,and<br>
> >use<br>
> > >those two extra years to train youth a job skill, good work
ethic, how <br>
>to<br>
> > >search for and find a job, keep a job, and advance in that field.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >They also need to teach youth how to do taxes, be a responsible
member <br>
>of<br>
> > >the community, build social skills, know first aid and establish <br>
>healthy<br>
> > >eating habits, and all about how credit and debit works.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >In other words, schools need to teach youth the things they are
going <br>
>to<br>
> > >need to know about living in modern society and doing well. So
many<br>
> >things<br>
> > >you learn in school today seem pointless when you get out and
never use<br>
> >it.<br>
> > >You also find yourself hurting in other areas when you are
expected to<br>
> >know<br>
> > >how to do something in life but nobody ever taught you.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Thanks for your email.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Best,<br>
> > ><br>
> > >_DJA<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Jerry Weitz wrote:<br>
> > >Raising the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.15 will not help in
real<br>
> > >inflation-adjusted buying power--it is too small of an increase.
So <br>
>let’s<br>
> > >discuss the fundamentals. As <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Virginia</st1:place></st1:State>’s former Democratic governor
Mark<br>
> > >Warner’s track record illustrates, skills training in our
high schools<br>
> > >would help increase wages for <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State>’s workforce and encourage more <br>
>jobs.<br>
> > >With the push for community colleges in the urban areas of <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State>, I<br>
> >believe<br>
> > >that our local high schools could become the rural equivalent of<br>
> > >community<br>
> > >college. This would cost money and would require a willingness to
<br>
>change<br>
> > >the current high school structure.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >The state legislature’s current focus on shifting school
funding from<br>
> > >property taxes to the sales tax (the current maintenance and
operations<br>
> > >debate) misses the point. Instead of focusing on ways to shift
funds, I<br>
> > >would urge consideration for increased funding for the<br>
> >creation/maintenance<br>
> > >of skills centers in local high schools. Rather than seeking a
balanced<br>
> > >taxation approach, the Idaho Education Association has promoted a
tax<br>
> >shift<br>
> > >to the sales tax, which sends a confusing message.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >When one examines <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
with a high minimum wage, a large<br>
> > >under-skilled/inexperienced segment of its youth, guaranteed
employment<br>
> > >contracts, unbending unionization, top down regulations, etc.,
one<br>
> >observes<br>
> > >high unemployment, a high cost of living, and extreme social
unrest.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >What works: 1) create/maintain superior education for both the<br>
> > >college-bound and the non-college-bound, 2) invest in
infrastructure, <br>
>3)<br>
> >be<br>
> > >friendly to business, 4) be environmentally wise, and 5) do this <br>
>without<br>
> > >going deeply into debt, which requires prioritization. <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ireland</st1:place></st1:country-region> has<br>
> > >followed the above policies with exceptional success. We should
follow<br>
> >the<br>
> > >lead of former governor Warner and <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Virginia</st1:place></st1:State>’s Republican legislature <br>
>and<br>
> > >make these policies non-partisan. From what I’ve learned,
Larry Grant,<br>
> >our<br>
> > >district’s Democratic candidate for Congress, seems to understand
this<br>
> > >non-partisan, middle of the road approach.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Jerry<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >At 11:11 AM 8/7/06, Shirley Ringo wrote:<br>
> > >Visionaries:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >I cannot resist the urge to weigh in on the minimum wage issue. I<br>
> > >proposed legislation during the most recent legislative session
to <br>
>raise<br>
> > >the minimum wage to $6.15. It received very little support from<br>
> > >Republicans. (Our District 6 Republicans did support it, and<br>
> > >Representative Trail will co-sponsor the effort with us again
next <br>
>year.)<br>
> > ><br>
> > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><br>
> > ><br>
> > >We plan to try again next year, at an amount above $6.15.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >Without getting into the usual arguments, it’s unacceptable
to have a<br>
> > >minimum wage that leaves those paid at that level in cruel
poverty.<br>
> > >Lawmakers have neglected maintenance on minimum wage levels. In
1968, <br>
>the<br>
> > >minimum wage meant something positive to families. In <br>
>inflation-adjusted<br>
> > >dollars, it has lost nearly 40% of its value between 1968 and
now.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >According to polling, the vast majority of Americans believe the <br>
>minimum<br>
> > >wage should be higher. I believe eighteen states have a minimum
wage<br>
> > >higher than the $5.15 federal level, which has not been raised
since<br>
> >1997.<br>
> > >Some of these states have used the initiative process to get
results,<br>
> >where<br>
> > >state legislators would not act on it. In some of these states,
there<br>
> >has<br>
> > >been significant help from Republican leaders.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >Many claims of negative consequences do not seem to be true. One
of the<br>
> > >claims is that jobs will be lost. In the majority of states that
have<br>
> > >raised the minimum wage, there has in fact been an increase in
jobs. <br>
>(We<br>
> > >can’t claim the wage increase caused more jobs, but the
decrease some<br>
> > >predicted didn’t happen.) An increase in employee
productivity and less<br>
> > >absenteeism was reported where the pay level increased.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >On the inflation issue, "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"<br>
> > >/><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Florida</st1:place></st1:State>
reported after<br>
> > >raising their minimum wage a very minor increase in some prices.
Since <br>
>a<br>
> > >relatively small percent of the employed receive minimum wage,
one <br>
>might<br>
> > >not expect a dramatic increase in prices. (We can expect a
“ripple<br>
> >effect”<br>
> > >though, where employers will raise wages to be more competitive.)
One<br>
> >year<br>
> > >ago in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State>,
according to the Department of Commerce and Labor, <br>
>32,000<br>
> > >Idahoans received a wage between $5.15 and $6.15 per hour. While <st1:State
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> > >the issue in the states that have raised the minimum wage.<br>
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> > >Workers who receive minimum wage live from paycheck to paycheck.
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