Well Sunil, we know it cannot be you that defends me because I am not a terrorist and sworn enemy to the people of the United States and that seems to be the only people you have been willing to defend. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Oh great, now someone's going to have to defend him. Dan, stop calling him <br>a pig, you big meanie.<br><br>There.<br><br>Sunil<br><br>>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 @msn.com=""><br>>To: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com, privatejf32@hotmail.com, <br>>vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:28:13 -0700<br>><br>>Gee, I think we've hit a new low here.<br>><br>>keely<br>><br>><br>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>>To: J Ford
<privatejf32 @hotmail.com="">, vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:38:19 -0700 (PDT)<br>><br>>Well Jackie,<br>><br>> FYI, I have three jobs. How many do you have? I bet you don't have one <br>>and collect a government check or someone else is supporting you. I don't <br>>have time to be vandalizing people's property, harassing bookstore owners, <br>>launching frivolous lawsuits against the school district, and inundating <br>>the police and city officials with vindictive filings against what my <br>>neighbors are doing. How do you make a living Jackie, because we sure do <br>>know you are not stable enough to maintain a regular job, much less make <br>>enough to feed two people.<br>><br>> Second, I have been to a couple school board meeting. You were at one of <br>>them, sitting there yelling at the top you lungs at Phil Roderick for <br>>having an
opinion different then yours, and mysteriously, his property was <br>>vandalized too.<br>><br>> Third, so you ask how MSD could save money, one of the best ways for the <br>>MSD and Moscow to save money would be to drop you off on an island <br>>somewhere, or ship you back to Alaska, so we don't have to hire so many <br>>city employees, pay frivolous lawsuits, repair damages to our property, <br>>and pay more in insurance premiums.<br>><br>> That would be good start.<br>><br>><br>>"Pastor Wilson, the Church of Christ is the absolute example of what a cult <br>>is NOT.<br>>There is NO brainwashing, there is NO physical/pyschological abuse.<br>>There is NO condemnation of the soul if someone choses to leave.<br>>There is NO part of Christ Church which worships anyone else but God and <br>>HIS word.<br>>The Church of Christ AND Pastor Wilson do answer to people outside of our <br>>town and community.<br>>A
cult answers only to itself." Jackie Woolf Thu, 11 Dec 2003<br>><br>> Best,<br>><br>> _DJA<br>><br>><br>>J Ford <privatejf32 @hotmail.com=""> wrote: Dictate to us...em, sorry - <br>>ENLIGHTEN us as to how you feel the MSD is<br>>wasting money on the children? Just where should the budget be cut?<br>><br>>Sounds to me you are verra familiar with the affects of an illegal<br>>substance; howbeit, since you have NEVER made it to a committee or School<br>>Board meeting, please - spread your light this-a-way and let the city know<br>>what plan you think would work and just how would it be paid for? And just<br>>how would you, who apparently has all knowledge, propose to get the<br>>community to accept anything you come up with any more readily than the<br>>plans MSD has proposed?<br>><br>>Since most of the jobs in any given city/town/state is private or privately<br>>corporate, what other sector should be
providing jobs? Not everyone can be<br>>a "professional student" receiving loans and grants to make it through <br>>life,<br>>so please let us know what other sector is out there to provide jobs that<br>>hasnae.<br>><br>>And while you're in a mood of explainging things - what the living lights <br>>is<br>>a "pot smoking circle"?<br>><br>><br>><br>>J ;|<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> >From: Donovan Arnold<br>> >To: Tom Ivie , keely emerinemix ,<br>> > gweitz@moscow.com, ringoshirl@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>> >Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:09:32 -0700 (PDT)<br>> ><br>> >Tom,<br>> ><br>> > You can pay for it by getting the MSD to stop wasting money in our<br>> >current school system. Second, they can get the private sector to help <br>>out<br>> >in many job fields. A company wants nothing more than
a bunch of highly<br>> >trained workers straight out of school. Third, if the MSD would come up<br>> >with a proposal that didn't sound like something contrived during a high<br>> >school pot smoking circle they might be able gain community support.<br>> ><br>> > Best,<br>> ><br>> > _DJA<br>> ><br>> >Tom Ivie wrote: How do you pay for that when we<br>> >can't even pass bonds for buildings and the state has to step in to fund<br>> >that?<br>> ><br>> >Donovan Arnold wrote: . . ."under Donovan's<br>> >plan, parents will have tons more free time --<br>> >what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us signed up for<br>> >as<br>> >parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start smoking or<br>> >having sex."-- Keely Mix<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Keely,<br>> ><br>> >I know you are the expert on education being on
the school board and <br>>all.<br>> >But, as I understand it, all parents have already been having sex.<br>> ><br>> >_DJA<br>> ><br>> >keely emerinemix wrote: Of course, under Donovan's<br>> >plan, parents will have tons more free time --<br>> >what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us signed up <br>>for<br>> >as<br>> >parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start smoking or<br>> >having sex.<br>> ><br>> >keely<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >From: Donovan Arnold<br>> >To: Jerry Weitz , Shirley Ringo ,<br>> >vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br>> >Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT)<br>> ><br>> >Jerry,<br>> ><br>> >I agree with you 100% regarding the workforce training. The school system<br>> >needs to start kids one year earlier, let them out one year later ,and
<br>>use<br>> >those two extra years to train youth a job skill, good work ethic, how to<br>> >search for and find a job, keep a job, and advance in that field.<br>> ><br>> >They also need to teach youth how to do taxes, be a responsible member of<br>> >the community, build social skills, know first aid and establish healthy<br>> >eating habits, and all about how credit and debit works.<br>> ><br>> >In other words, schools need to teach youth the things they are going to<br>> >need to know about living in modern society and doing well. So many <br>>things<br>> >you learn in school today seem pointless when you get out and never use <br>>it.<br>> >You also find yourself hurting in other areas when you are expected to <br>>know<br>> >how to do something in life but nobody ever taught you.<br>> ><br>> >Thanks for your email.<br>> ><br>> >Best,<br>> ><br>>
>_DJA<br>> ><br>> >Jerry Weitz wrote:<br>> >Raising the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.15 will not help in real<br>> >inflation-adjusted buying power--it is too small of an increase. So let’s<br>> >discuss the fundamentals. As Virginia’s former Democratic governor Mark<br>> >Warner’s track record illustrates, skills training in our high schools<br>> >would help increase wages for Idaho’s workforce and encourage more jobs.<br>> >With the push for community colleges in the urban areas of Idaho, I <br>>believe<br>> >that our local high schools could become the rural equivalent of<br>> >community<br>> >college. This would cost money and would require a willingness to change<br>> >the current high school structure.<br>> ><br>> >The state legislature’s current focus on shifting school funding from<br>> >property taxes to the sales tax (the current maintenance and operations<br>>
>debate) misses the point. Instead of focusing on ways to shift funds, I<br>> >would urge consideration for increased funding for the <br>>creation/maintenance<br>> >of skills centers in local high schools. Rather than seeking a balanced<br>> >taxation approach, the Idaho Education Association has promoted a tax <br>>shift<br>> >to the sales tax, which sends a confusing message.<br>> ><br>> >When one examines France, with a high minimum wage, a large<br>> >under-skilled/inexperienced segment of its youth, guaranteed employment<br>> >contracts, unbending unionization, top down regulations, etc., one <br>>observes<br>> >high unemployment, a high cost of living, and extreme social unrest.<br>> ><br>> >What works: 1) create/maintain superior education for both the<br>> >college-bound and the non-college-bound, 2) invest in infrastructure, 3) <br>>be<br>> >friendly to business, 4) be
environmentally wise, and 5) do this without<br>> >going deeply into debt, which requires prioritization. Ireland has<br>> >followed the above policies with exceptional success. We should follow <br>>the<br>> >lead of former governor Warner and Virginia’s Republican legislature and<br>> >make these policies non-partisan. From what I’ve learned, Larry Grant, <br>>our<br>> >district’s Democratic candidate for Congress, seems to understand this<br>> >non-partisan, middle of the road approach.<br>> ><br>> >Jerry<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >At 11:11 AM 8/7/06, Shirley Ringo wrote:<br>> >Visionaries:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I cannot resist the urge to weigh in on the minimum wage issue. I<br>> >proposed legislation during the most recent legislative session to raise<br>> >the minimum wage to $6.15. It received very little support from<br>> >Republicans. (Our
District 6 Republicans did support it, and<br>> >Representative Trail will co-sponsor the effort with us again next year.)<br>> ><br>> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><br>> ><br>> >We plan to try again next year, at an amount above $6.15.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Without getting into the usual arguments, it’s unacceptable to have a<br>> >minimum wage that leaves those paid at that level in cruel poverty.<br>> >Lawmakers have neglected maintenance on minimum wage levels. In 1968, the<br>> >minimum wage meant something positive to families. In inflation-adjusted<br>> >dollars, it has lost nearly 40% of its value between 1968 and now.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >According to polling, the vast majority of Americans believe the minimum<br>> >wage should be higher. I believe eighteen states have a minimum wage<br>> >higher than the $5.15 federal
level, which has not been raised since <br>>1997.<br>> >Some of these states have used the initiative process to get results, <br>>where<br>> >state legislators would not act on it. In some of these states, there <br>>has<br>> >been significant help from Republican leaders.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Many claims of negative consequences do not seem to be true. One of the<br>> >claims is that jobs will be lost. In the majority of states that have<br>> >raised the minimum wage, there has in fact been an increase in jobs. (We<br>> >can’t claim the wage increase caused more jobs, but the decrease some<br>> >predicted didn’t happen.) An increase in employee productivity and less<br>> >absenteeism was reported where the pay level increased.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >On the inflation issue, "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"<br>> >/>Florida reported
after<br>> >raising their minimum wage a very minor increase in some prices. Since a<br>> >relatively small percent of the employed receive minimum wage, one might<br>> >not expect a dramatic increase in prices. (We can expect a “ripple <br>>effect”<br>> >though, where employers will raise wages to be more competitive.) One <br>>year<br>> >ago in Idaho, according to the Department of Commerce and Labor, 32,000<br>> >Idahoans received a wage between $5.15 and $6.15 per hour. While Idaho<br>> >State Government employee pay is entirely too low, almost none of them<br>> >receive pay as low as $5.15 per hour. I don’t consider it an undisputed<br>> >fact that there will be significant inflation, but we can certainly study<br>> >the issue in the states that have raised the minimum wage.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Workers who receive minimum wage live from paycheck to paycheck. (If<br>>
>they can make it stretch.) They have no discretionary money. What are<br>> >they to do when their taxes go up? Just more water in the gravy, I guess.<br>> >At the minimum wage, it takes more than one full day to earn the money to<br>> >buy fifteen gallons of gasoline.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >While I continue to study the issue, I am convinced that some of the<br>> >negative consequences of raising the minimum wage are over-stated. I am<br>> >also steadfast in my belief that it is unacceptable to value people and<br>> >families so little that we allow such a low level of compensation for <br>>their<br>> >efforts and to address their needs.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Shirley<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >=======================================================<br>> >List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>>
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