Joe,<br> <br> Would you at least concede that raising the minimum wage would cause inflation?<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>Joe Campbell <joekc@adelphia.net></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I was just asking a question, Tony. If I messed up the details of Chevy's argument, he can always tell me where I went wrong.<br><br>Best, Joe<br><br>---- Tony Simpson <tonytime @clearwire.net=""> wrote: <br><br>=============<br>OH LIGHTEN UP old logic professor Joe. Chevy's reasoning in his minimum wage <br>post was crisp and insightful and deserving of more than terse and <br>condescending smuggery from you.<br><br>FYI Chevy, Joe has a penchant for paraphrasing the argument of another in an <br>absurd and self serving way, then demanding that they defend themselves for <br>a position they never took. It can become terribly tedious.<br><br>Best to you both,
--Tony<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc @adelphia.net=""><br>To: "J Chevy" <j_chvy @yahoo.com=""><br>Cc: <vision2020 @moscow.com=""><br>Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:36 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage<br><br><br>> Chevy,<br>><br>> I just want to make sure that I have the structure of your argument <br>> correct. As far as I can tell, it is this:<br>><br>> 1) Here is a crazy idea: Suppose we raise the minimum wage to $100 per <br>> hour.<br>> 2) That won't work.<br>> 3) Therefore, it is crazy to raise the minumum wage.<br>><br>> Is that your argument?<br>><br>> As of yet this fallacy has no name. On the other hand, it doesn't need <br>> one!<br>><br>> Best, Joe<br>><br>> ---- J Chevy <j_chvy @yahoo.com=""> wrote:<br>><br>> =============<br>> “Everywhere is freaks and hairies<br>> Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity<br>> Tax the rich; feed the
poor<br>> Till there are no rich no more...”<br>><br>> Interpret the above as you will.<br>><br>> Now, in the purest democrat fashion…<br>><br>> Hey, I got a grand idea; let’s skip all the non-livable wage propositions <br>> and raise the minimum wage in Idaho to $100.00 per worker per hour worked. <br>> Skilled, unskilled, college educated, black, white, green, position in <br>> society, blue collar, white collar, high or low intelligence, no matter. <br>> Better yet, assign everyone identical salaries. We are all equal, right? <br>> Why shouldn’t we deserve the same pay? Does any among us think that they’re <br>> better than the other? Maybe our government should just handle all the <br>> finances in the United States--issue us all an identical check every <br>> Monday. Shoot, why do we even need money? Or property? Or the right to <br>> have a say in the political arena for that matter? (Socialized
medicine, <br>> at this point, is a no-brainer.) Shant we all fulfill out own niche to <br>> society and one big utopia will result? Aw, community, egalitarianism, I <br>> love it! Mind you, we need bums, losers, drug addicts, illegal aliens, <br>> derelicts, miscreants, hippies,<br>> gypsies, and environmentalists just as we need doctors, engineers, <br>> teachers, attorneys, chemists, military personnel, law enforcement, and <br>> authors. We are all equal, we simply play our own and unique role in the <br>> societal hub. True? We are all dependant on each other for survival. The <br>> drive to earn a bigger wage and live more affluently is no motivation to <br>> better oneself—or the country for that matter. Perhaps the ailing Castro, <br>> Putin, Ill, Hu, or the ghost of Lenin or Marx could help with the <br>> logistics and implementation of this socioeconomic bit of brilliance. It’s <br>> a noble idea. It will be tough
in the beginning. We will have to start on <br>> a small-scale basis. The first experimental community could be called, <br>> say, the Socialist Republic of Moscow. Next, when we have successfully <br>> worked out the bugs, we could fan out to neighboring areas, then to the <br>> entire state. How’s the People’s Republic of Idaho sound? Catchy, huh? <br>> Apropos, I’m suddenly having a deja vu.<br>><br>> Not funny, you say? Remember the natural progression, according to Marx, <br>> that Nations typically take? The US is knee deep in Socialism already. The <br>> last step is communism…and, as we all know, it’s track record is flawless.<br>><br>> Performance, specialization, and supply/demand should dictate salary.. <br>> When all is said and done, no one will work for (or pay) the ridiculous. <br>> There should be no minimum wage, whatsoever. Just think, and I’m not <br>> totally a free market wing
nut..<br>><br>> But, let’s say our socialist, Idahoan quixotes have their way and manage <br>> to get the minimum wage raised to say, $8.00, the highest in the nation. <br>> Can any of you, without any other state contributions, survive on that? <br>> Doubtful. So, what then? $9.00? 10.00? 15.00 per hour?<br>><br>> The answer is to eliminate the minimum wage altogether (and oust the <br>> aliens that’ll work for next-to-nothing). Any person left who wants <br>> something for themselves or their family will do what it takes to climb <br>> the ladder. ‘Cause ‘meritocracy and the American Dream’ ain’t no riddle, <br>> man; to me, it makes good good sense. Good sense.<br>><br>> J<br>><br>><br>> ---------------------------------<br>> Groups are talking. Were listening. Check out the handy changes to <br>> Yahoo! Groups.<br>><br>> =======================================================<br>> List
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