<div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oh, Joe, and I thought you were a logistician..<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">First, the idea of raising the minimum wage to $100.00 was a �grand� one.. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But, I showed how stupid this idea was as was the idea of no wages at all.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also, using parody, I showed how eerily close our great nation is creeping towards communism by implementing stupid ideas such as raising the minimum wage. In the same vein, I illustrated how the drive for wealth brings out incomparable creativity and productivity.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lastly, an argument that is valid requires no fallacy assignment�because it isn�t a fallacy. But, I know you already know this� and, common sense is something that is learned by trial and error, rubbing elbows with the common man, and years of, well, living.. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The post was short and to the point--well, sorta<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div
class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now, for you, Joe--and I know you critically read my sarcastic post and arrived at the same thing. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">P: Raising the minimum wage is something nations do on their route to communism<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">P: Communism is seldom successful for long, if ever<o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">C: Therefore, raising the minimum wage is not a good idea for our nation�well, unless you�re a communist. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Shoot, now I need to supply a truth table to disprove the alleged merits of communism. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></div> <div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Chev<BR><BR><B><I>Joe Campbell <joekc@adelphia.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Chevy,<BR><BR>I just want to make sure that I have the structure of your argument correct. As far as I can tell, it is this:<BR><BR>1) Here is a crazy idea: Suppose we raise the minimum wage to $100 per hour.<BR>2) That won't work.<BR>3) Therefore, it is crazy to raise the minumum wage.<BR><BR>Is that your argument? <BR><BR>As of yet this fallacy has no name. On the other hand, it doesn't need one!<BR><BR>Best, Joe<BR><BR>---- J Chevy
<J_CHVY@YAHOO.COM>wrote: <BR><BR>=============<BR>“Everywhere is freaks and hairies<BR>Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity <BR>Tax the rich; feed the poor<BR>Till there are no rich no more...”<BR><BR>Interpret the above as you will.<BR><BR>Now, in the purest democrat fashion…<BR><BR>Hey, I got a grand idea; let’s skip all the non-livable wage propositions and raise the minimum wage in Idaho to $100.00 per worker per hour worked. Skilled, unskilled, college educated, black, white, green, position in society, blue collar, white collar, high or low intelligence, no matter. Better yet, assign everyone identical salaries. We are all equal, right? Why shouldn’t we deserve the same pay? Does any among us think that they’re better than the other? Maybe our government should just handle all the finances in the United States--issue us all an identical check every Monday. Shoot, why do we even need money? Or property? Or the right to have a say in the political
arena for that matter? (Socialized medicine, at this point, is a no-brainer.) Shant we all fulfill out own niche to society and one big utopia will result? Aw, community, egalitarianism, I love it! Mind you, we need bums, losers, drug addicts, illegal aliens, derelicts, miscreants, hippies,<BR>gypsies, and environmentalists just as we need doctors, engineers, teachers, attorneys, chemists, military personnel, law enforcement, and authors. We are all equal, we simply play our own and unique role in the societal hub. True? We are all dependant on each other for survival. The drive to earn a bigger wage and live more affluently is no motivation to better oneself—or the country for that matter. Perhaps the ailing Castro, Putin, Ill, Hu, or the ghost of Lenin or Marx could help with the logistics and implementation of this socioeconomic bit of brilliance. It’s a noble idea. It will be tough in the beginning. We will have to start on a small-scale basis. The first
experimental community could be called, say, the Socialist Republic of Moscow. Next, when we have successfully worked out the bugs, we could fan out to neighboring areas, then to the entire state. How’s the People’s Republic of Idaho sound? Catchy, huh? Apropos, I’m suddenly having a deja vu. <BR><BR>Not funny, you say? Remember the natural progression, according to Marx, that Nations typically take? The US is knee deep in Socialism already. The last step is communism…and, as we all know, it’s track record is flawless. <BR><BR>Performance, specialization, and supply/demand should dictate salary.. When all is said and done, no one will work for (or pay) the ridiculous. There should be no minimum wage, whatsoever. Just think, and I’m not totally a free market wing nut..<BR><BR>But, let’s say our socialist, Idahoan quixotes have their way and manage to get the minimum wage raised to say, $8.00, the highest in the nation. Can any of you, without any other state
contributions, survive on that? Doubtful. So, what then? $9.00? 10.00? 15.00 per hour? <BR><BR>The answer is to eliminate the minimum wage altogether (and oust the aliens that’ll work for next-to-nothing). Any person left who wants something for themselves or their family will do what it takes to climb the ladder. ‘Cause ‘meritocracy and the American Dream’ ain’t no riddle, man; to me, it makes good good sense. Good sense. <BR><BR>J<BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------<BR>Groups are talking. We�re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p> 
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