<pre><tt>"I believe that what Dan was rightfully complaining about was the <br>increased traffic caused by a bunch of "not-out-of-high-school-mode" brats that <br>zip in and out of residential areas in loud obnoxious un-mufflered cars, who <br>also like to blast their music, party-hearty, be up to all hours of the <br>night, with little-to-no regard for the people in the neighborhood." Jackie Woolf<br><br>Well Jackie, if that were the case maybe he should have complained about that<br>instead of protesting a Daycare for disabled children moving into where those rowdy<br>College "brats" were living. If he wanted them gone, supporting the daycare would have been<br>the fastest way because that is house where they resided.<br><br>If he is complaining about the traffic, why is he attacking me for complaining about the<br>traffic? Would seem rather hypocritical don't you think?<br><br>I also wonder how I can live right near Dan for 5 years and not notice the<br>same traffic
problems he does on that street? I did notice the rowdy boys<br>living next door to him, and cheered when they left, and was pleased at the prospect of<br>a Daycare being there instead, I though it would improve the neighborhood.<br><br>And for the record, there is NO PARKING problem on the 300 south block of Cleveland. That<br>is a BS reason to oppose the daycare. I invite anyone to come down and check out that <br>block and tell me they cannot find a parking spot, not to mention Dan has his own driveway.<br><br>Maybe Jackie can sneak onto Dan's Property and take a picture from his front yard.<br><br>I don't think your reasoning holds with the facts, Jackie. <br><br>Another way to solve this, just go get the BOA meeting minutes, yeah? <br><br>Best,<br><br>_DJA<br></tt></pre> <br><br><b><i>J Ford <privatejf32@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Do you
deliberately look for things to hate or ways to malign what people <br>have said?<br><br>I believe that what Dan was rightfully complaining about was the increased <br>traffic caused by a bunch of "not-out-of-high-school-mode" brats that zip in <br>and out of residential areas in loud obnoxious un-mufflered cars, who also <br>like to blast their music, party-hearty, be up to all hours of the night, <br>with little-to-no regard for the people in the neighborhood. He never once <br>mentioned the traffic of the wee special bairns that are being taken in/out <br>of the day care facility that is run during the day as being anything more <br>than increased but something he could live with for now.<br><br>Mayhap you need to take more of those long walks you are so fond of boasting <br>about - clean out the cob webs a wee bit more.<br><br>And please not that Dan SPECIFICALLY stated he was not calling you a pig. <br>Sheesh!<br><br>J :]<br><br><br><br><br><br>>From: Donovan
Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>>To: Dan Carscallen <areaman @moscow.com="">, vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] alternative routes<br>>Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:54:57 -0700 (PDT)<br>><br>>"I took issue with what would be increased traffic right next door to me. <br>>It was a valid concern, as traffic has increased."--Dan Carscallen<br>><br>> Dan,<br>><br>> So your original complaint to the City is NOW not all the disabled <br>>children getting access to a daycare, but the TRAFFIC of 15 kids being <br>>picked up and dropped off? So much a complaint that you went down to the <br>>BOA meeting to launch a complaint with another neighbor about it and tried <br>>to stop it, (even prepared a speech) not caring about weather the disabled <br>>children had another location available to them. Too many disabled kids <br>>doubling your traffic "RUSH 1 minute" as you say, Dan?<br>><br>> Yet
you are barking at me for complaining about having to turn my 1.5 <br>>mile trips to 3 mile trips, which nearly doubles my gas bill which is hard <br>>on a guy living below the poverty line? How ironic Dan. The world does <br>>really revolve around you.<br>><br>> Look Dan, here comes another political horse, better get on it because <br>>another election is coming soon. If you lose AGAIN, get together with <br>>Wayne Fox and WHINE about it being a big government conspiracy that rigged <br>>the ballots by not lining up the butterfly ballots to the right name, I <br>>will even throw in a new box of color crayons so Wayne can write his <br>>conspiracy on paper with as much life and color as his emails.<br>><br>> Your Favorite Pig,<br>><br>><br>>Arnold<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>Dan Carscallen <areaman @moscow.com=""> wrote: Donovan says:<br>>". . . others, such as yourself, like to complain about
disabled<br>>children moving in next door to you and lowering your property value as<br>>you testified to the City Council and tried to get them barred from our<br>>neighborhood."<br>><br>><br>>I'm not sure I want to go down this road, because when you wrestle with<br>>a pig, you both just get dirty, and it just makes the pig happy, but<br>>let's get a few things straight so the Vizzz peeps know what went down:<br>><br>>1) It wasn't the City Council, it was the Board of Adjustment.<br>><br>>2)I had no issue with property values, I took issue with what would be<br>>increased traffic right next door to me. It was a valid concern, as<br>>traffic has increased. The house was being rented by a decent bunch of<br>>college students at the time (finally!), but now there are several<br>>people making several trips a day, and employees not exactly following<br>>the parking conditions. Pretty minor, but I can live with
it.<br>><br>>3) After they CUP was granted, I figured "fine, I'll live with it." I<br>>had my say, and the Board of Adjustment went the other way. I was a<br>>little disappointed at what I saw as some "sore winners" cheering the<br>>decision. Not exactly cool, in my opinion. But no matter, I was going<br>>to live with it.<br>><br>>4) Since the CUP was issued to make a daycare out of the house, the<br>>renters got kicked out. We thought that was okay, since we wouldn't<br>>have to listen to any more parties late at night. Then we found out we<br>>were wrong. Somehow, in a blatant violation of the CUP, there were all<br>>the sudden four new renters in that house, raising hell and wreaking<br>>havoc on the toys and such that are there for the kids. It seemed VERY<br>>inappropriate for 4 college age renters to be living in a house that was<br>>being used as a daycare. I brought this up with the Community<br>>Development
dept, but they were completely bogged down with every other<br>>complaint in town. I thank them, though, for at least acknowledging my<br>>concerns. The renters were supposed to be out in January, but they did<br>>not leave until school let out. Again, I lived with it.<br>><br>>5) Now, it seems that ownership of the house has changed hands, and<br>>things seem to be settling into a groove. Traffic is still more than<br>>I'd like, but tolerable, and some of the parking conditions are still<br>>not being met, but we'll hash all that out when they go in for the<br>>renewal of their CUP.<br>><br>>Sorry for being long-winded, but I just couldn't let this go without<br>>defending myself to some extent. Besides, I did wrestle in high school,<br>>so I think I can take a pig. Of course, none of this is near as<br>>dramatic and inflammatory as saying "Dan Carscallen hates the disabled".<br>><br>>By the way, I think I'm going to
take my chances and walk downtown to<br>>the farmer's market this weekend,<br>><br>>DC<br>><br>>P.S. Donovan, I'm not referring to you as a pig. I'm using what is<br>>called a colloquialism. Or maybe it's a metaphor. I'll have to look it<br>>up.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>---------------------------------<br>>See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out.<br><br><br>>=======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>>=======================================================<br><br>_________________________________________________________________<br>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE!
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