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<P><STRONG>I'm guessing it wasn't intentional on Dan's part, but "Arnold the Pig" was a character on Green acres TV series.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>I caught it right off the bat and wondered if anyone else would.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Oh, well! What can you expect from snarks.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich</STRONG><BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>Joe Campbell <joekc@adelphia.net></I><BR>To: <I>Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I><BR>CC: <I>vision2020@moscow.com, Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com></I><BR>Subject: <I>[Vision2020] Donovan was not referred to as a pig.</I><BR>Date: <I>Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:42 -0700</I><BR>>Just to be clear, Dan never called Donovan a pig. He used a figure of speech: If you wrestle with pigs, you get dirty. It is interesting to note that, given what has happened, it seems that the figure of speech was (figuratively) true!<BR>><BR>>--<BR>>Joe Campbell<BR>><BR>>---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com> wrote:<BR>><BR>>=============<BR>>Matt,<BR>><BR>> You too huh. Well explain to us why it is acceptable for Dan Carscallen to
launch three personal attacks against me FIRST, including referring to me as a pig, and yet it is unacceptable for me respond back?<BR>><BR>> Why did you remain quiet while Wayne Fox and Dan Carscallen tag teamed me right and left with personal attacks then only chose to respond when I defended myself?<BR>><BR>> Isn't that little one sided for you guys to bash one person up and down, then when they fight back your respond as though they were the ones that started the whole thing?<BR>><BR>> If you are unable to answer that question Matt, let me explain it to you as I see it it.<BR>><BR>> You lack courage. And are unable to stand up to people that you agree with on other issues when you know they are wrong, and will only
attack people that you don't like, are socially weak, or others have already started attacking, mainly people that disagree with you on the controversial issue of Doug Wilson.<BR>><BR>> I am willing to bet if you had any real courage, you would have responded in the same manner as you did to me, to Dan Carscallen and Wayne Fox when they started tag teaming me with personal attacks unrelated to the subject at hand.<BR>><BR>> You don't get the hypocrisy, of Dan Carscallen whining about the traffic problems on his street for YEARS and even trying to block disabled kids from entering the neighborhood because of a parking issue, yet attacking me personally for having a complaint about the traffic problems in Moscow that are cutting into my savings
having to pay for all the extra gas. That irony has not crossed or phased you on bit. How BLIND and hypocrtical of you, Matt.<BR>><BR>> Best,<BR>><BR>> _DJA<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com> wrote: Keely,<BR>><BR>>Well said.<BR>><BR>>Matt<BR>><BR>><BR>> >From: "keely emerinemix"<BR>> >To: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com, areaman@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] alternative routes<BR>> >Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:06:28 -0700<BR>> ><BR>> >Donovan's snotty tirades against decent people continue. Dan is a good guy<BR>> >who stuck his neck out to run for office. Donovan is a flamethrower who<BR>> >aims at people who, well, stick their necks out to run for
office or who<BR>> >otherwise work to improve the community.<BR>> ><BR>> >I don't always agree with Dan, but he doesn't deserve this.<BR>> ><BR>> >keely<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >From: Donovan Arnold<BR>> >To: Dan Carscallen , vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] alternative routes<BR>> >Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:54:57 -0700 (PDT)<BR>> ><BR>> >"I took issue with what would be increased traffic right next door to me.<BR>> >It was a valid concern, as traffic has increased."--Dan Carscallen<BR>> ><BR>> > Dan,<BR>> ><BR>> > So your original complaint to the City is NOW not all the disabled<BR>> >children getting access to a daycare, but the TRAFFIC of 15 kids being<BR>> >picked up and dropped off? So much a
complaint that you went down to the<BR>> >BOA meeting to launch a complaint with another neighbor about it and tried<BR>> >to stop it, (even prepared a speech) not caring about weather the disabled<BR>> >children had another location available to them. Too many disabled kids<BR>> >doubling your traffic "RUSH 1 minute" as you say, Dan?<BR>> ><BR>> > Yet you are barking at me for complaining about having to turn my 1.5<BR>> >mile trips to 3 mile trips, which nearly doubles my gas bill which is hard<BR>> >on a guy living below the poverty line? How ironic Dan. The world does<BR>> >really revolve around you.<BR>> ><BR>> > Look Dan, here comes another political horse, better get on it
because<BR>> >another election is coming soon. If you lose AGAIN, get together with<BR>> >Wayne Fox and WHINE about it being a big government conspiracy that rigged<BR>> >the ballots by not lining up the butterfly ballots to the right name, I<BR>> >will even throw in a new box of color crayons so Wayne can write his<BR>> >conspiracy on paper with as much life and color as his emails.<BR>> ><BR>> > Your Favorite Pig,<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Arnold<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Dan Carscallen wrote: Donovan says:<BR>> >". . . others, such as yourself, like to complain about disabled<BR>> >children moving in next door to you and lowering your property value as<BR>> >you
testified to the City Council and tried to get them barred from our<BR>> >neighborhood."<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >I'm not sure I want to go down this road, because when you wrestle with<BR>> >a pig, you both just get dirty, and it just makes the pig happy, but<BR>> >let's get a few things straight so the Vizzz peeps know what went down:<BR>> ><BR>> >1) It wasn't the City Council, it was the Board of Adjustment.<BR>> ><BR>> >2)I had no issue with property values, I took issue with what would be<BR>> >increased traffic right next door to me. It was a valid concern, as<BR>> >traffic has increased. The house was being rented by a decent bunch of<BR>> >college students at the time (finally!), but now there are several<BR>> >people making several trips a day, and employees not exactly
following<BR>> >the parking conditions. Pretty minor, but I can live with it.<BR>> ><BR>> >3) After they CUP was granted, I figured "fine, I'll live with it." I<BR>> >had my say, and the Board of Adjustment went the other way. I was a<BR>> >little disappointed at what I saw as some "sore winners" cheering the<BR>> >decision. Not exactly cool, in my opinion. But no matter, I was going<BR>> >to live with it.<BR>> ><BR>> >4) Since the CUP was issued to make a daycare out of the house, the<BR>> >renters got kicked out. We thought that was okay, since we wouldn't<BR>> >have to listen to any more parties late at night. Then we found out we<BR>> >were wrong. Somehow, in a blatant violation of the CUP, there were all<BR>> >the
sudden four new renters in that house, raising hell and wreaking<BR>> >havoc on the toys and such that are there for the kids. It seemed VERY<BR>> >inappropriate for 4 college age renters to be living in a house that was<BR>> >being used as a daycare. I brought this up with the Community<BR>> >Development dept, but they were completely bogged down with every other<BR>> >complaint in town. I thank them, though, for at least acknowledging my<BR>> >concerns. The renters were supposed to be out in January, but they did<BR>> >not leave until school let out. Again, I lived with it.<BR>> ><BR>> >5) Now, it seems that ownership of the house has changed hands, and<BR>> >things seem to be settling into a groove. Traffic is still more than<BR>> >I'd like, but
tolerable, and some of the parking conditions are still<BR>> >not being met, but we'll hash all that out when they go in for the<BR>> >renewal of their CUP.<BR>> ><BR>> >Sorry for being long-winded, but I just couldn't let this go without<BR>> >defending myself to some extent. Besides, I did wrestle in high school,<BR>> >so I think I can take a pig. Of course, none of this is near as<BR>> >dramatic and inflammatory as saying "Dan Carscallen hates the disabled".<BR>> ><BR>> >By the way, I think I'm going to take my chances and walk downtown to<BR>> >the farmer's market this weekend,<BR>> ><BR>> >DC<BR>> ><BR>> >P.S. Donovan, I'm not referring to you as a pig. I'm using what is<BR>> >called a colloquialism. Or maybe it's a
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