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I'm not qualified to comment on how well that kind of system would
work. However, I don't personally think that the UI will do anything
like that until they get the "parking is revenue" idea out of their
heads. Remember the good old days when you could park for free at the
Dome and hoof it to class? Or on the street? The permit prices are
getting way out of control, and even if you have one you can't park in
lots of areas because you don't have the right color permit and can't
get one. And the "parking nazis" drive cars made to look like police
cars with stickers on the doors and lights on top of them.<br>
<br>
Make us poor staff pay for our permits, fine. Keep the price of a Gold
permit high, and also the Magenta, Silver, and whatever other student
ones there are. If you keep the price higher, more people will find
alternate ways to get to work. Save the good spots for disabled
parking and meters, but reduce the prices for Blue permits, get rid of
Red permits, reduce the number of Magenta, Silver, etc, and open up
areas on the outskirts of campus for free parking. Try alternate ideas
like increasing the shuttle runs and putting in more bicycle parking.
Stop trying to make the poor parking situation into a money-maker.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Donovan Arnold wrote:
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cite="mid20060803020911.91262.qmail@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com"
type="cite">Hansen, you lack imagination or are unaware of how public
transportation funding works. Do you think public transportation is
actually covered by the $1 fee to ride the bus anywhere, or do you
think that the taxpayer slips in most the funding?<br>
<br>
Do you think libraries pay for everything through late fees?<br>
<br>
No, the costs to the taxpayer is repaid in savings on the costs for
road repairs, reduction in insurance premiums, and the cost of not
producing more parking spaces. This combined with the charging of a
small fee for the users of the program would cover the costs. <br>
<br>
Nobody said anything about free gas. When you rent a car it is filled
up with gas and you are required to return it filled up with gas.<br>
<br>
In the Communication Department at UI, most Comm students cannot afford
all the technical equipment of video cameras, editing equipment,
special lenses, etc, so they all pay a fee to pay for communication
equipment, in return, the comm students get to rent the equipment. Do
the same thing with a vehicle program. Students could leave their cars
at home, pay a fee, then access a car on the few occasions that they
really need a car. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
_DJA <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i>Tom Hansen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><thansen@moscow.com></a></i></b> wrote:
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that these ideas presented by <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:City>
will be immediately adopted once a source of free gasoline and free
cars is identified.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Keep us
informed, ok?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Moscow</span></font></st1:City><font
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">, <st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font color="navy"
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;">"Life should NOT
be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an
attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used up,
totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"</span></font><o:p></o:p></div>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Donovan Arnold<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
August 02, 2006 6:29 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Art Deco; Vision
2020<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Vision2020] Reducing cars in town</span></font><o:p></o:p></div>
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style="font-size: 12pt;">What if the University were to include free (
or reduced price) car rentals for each student and offered free bus
rides to Boise, Twin Falls, Portland, and Seattle, (and cities in
between during vacation times), to students that elected not to bring a
car to the University, which is unneeded for most on campus living
students.<br>
<br>
If a student could rent a car from the UI for the day, or a few hours
once in a while, they might elect to do that instead of bringing a car
that eats at their wallet when they really don't need one most the
time. It would also free up parking spaces on campus and downtown. <br>
<br>
Just an idea.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
_DJA <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Art Deco
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><deco@moscow.com></a></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">When I was a student here in 58-62 and 66-69,
students were actively <br>
discouraged from bringing vehicles to the university. Is there any
chance <br>
of reviving that policy?<br>
<br>
W.<br>
----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: "david sarff" <br>
<davesway @hotmail.com="">To: <br>
<vision2020 @moscow.com="">Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:11 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 16<br>
<br>
<br>
>I would like to see transportation distribution zones that restrict
<br>
>vehicles<br>
> by weight class.<br>
> On national and local levels.<br>
><br>
> Also, it would be great to give the students incentive to leave
their cars<br>
> home. Offer tuition or housing cost adjustments. Something.<br>
><br>
> Out of the last 43 years that I can remember of <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>. The
volume of<br>
> traffic seems exponentially larger than the increase in actual
population.<br>
> Growing traffic adds a certain madness to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> and to the nation that I<br>
> certainly would prefer have go away.<br>
><br>
> By the looks of the developing infeed/outfeed status-quo
infrastructure.<br>
> Traffic pressure does not look as though its going to ease off
anytime <br>
> soon.<br>
><br>
> Dave Sarff<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>>From: Nils Peterson <br>
<nils_peterson @wsu.edu="">>><br>
>><br>
>>What a fine opportunity to talk about alternative
transportation modes.<br>
>>Thanks Tom Ivie for your recent post on Federal Funding for
such work. And<br>
>>thanks to the COOP for starting your effort to get shoppers to
use<br>
>>alternative modes, looks like you were planning ahead.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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