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<div>I have gone into Bucers for coffee etc. a number of times, and have never had a problem. Of course I have considered the ethical implications of supporting this business do their connections to, well, you know. But then when I put gas into my tank I often feel as though I am supporting the end of the world, because of, well, you should know!
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/29/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ellen Roskovich</b> <<a href="mailto:gussie443@hotmail.com">gussie443@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p><strong>The discussion about Bucer's I would have found interesting. . . must have taken place during the period I was absent from V2020.</strong></p>
<p><strong>If Bucer's was, or is, being boycotted, maybe it's their own damn fault. I have a friend that went there for coffee and was humiliated and embarassed and so outraged afterwards that she wrote a letter to the Daily Snooze.
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<p><strong>Hmmm. . . maybe I'll have to take a peek in the archives.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Ellen A. Roskovich</strong></p>
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From: <i>"Tom Hansen" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></i><br>To: <i>"Joan Opyr" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:joanopyr@moscow.com" target="_blank">
joanopyr@moscow.com</a>>, "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>></i><br>Subject:
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ted –</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As much as I sympathize the disparagement you were forced to endure, I applaud your willingness to share it here on Vision 2020.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What you did subsequent to the vandalism committed against your property reflects a strong sense of responsibility in your reporting it to the county sheriff's office and a strong measure of maturity in not providing false witness by wrongfully identifying perpetrators without just cause and in a retaliatory fashion.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Knowingly providing wrong information to the police/sheriff's office when reporting a crime (or series of crimes) is worse than not providing any information at all.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If Jackie Woolf, Terry Morin, Charlie Nolan, or Michael Metzler were to participate in any type of activity or transaction that required a local records check, it is highly likely that they would be listed as "named individuals" in relation to a reported history of vandalism and harassment. Financial losses and potential loss of employment are only two possible repercussions that come to mind.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, you see, this police report and statement initiated by Doug Wilson amount to considerably more than victimless town gossip.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is also another link in what is painfully becoming Wilson's chain of malevolence. Remember a few years back when the discussion On Vision 2020 concerned peoples' right to frequent coffee shops of their liking. As the discussion evolved, it was becoming evident that a majority of the discussion's participants did not favor frequenting Bucer's. Right away Doug Wilson accused us of organizing an unlawful boycott of Bucer's.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just digging up old memories, Moscow.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I will take a short break for now to enjoy a late lunch and to provide Doug Wilson ample time to compile the multitude of DPA (Displaying Public Animosity) violations detailed above and waddle his way to the police station.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Seeya round town, Moscow.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tom "the ol' dung flunger himself" Hansen</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Ted Moffett [mailto:
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com" target="_blank">starbliss@gmail.com</a>] <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:00 PM<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Joan Opyr<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b> Joe Campbell; Vision2020 Moscow; Tom Hansen<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Vision2020] Escalation of claims NOT normal procedure
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Joan may remember the extreme vandalism committed against a vehicle I owned in the spring of 2005. I communicated with Joan at that time about this incident. The level of violence and destruction against said vehicle makes Wilson's "harassment" look like a playful punch in the shoulder from a buddy compared to a having someone drop kick your face into the pavement losing your front teeth in a bloody fractured enameled mess.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My car windows were smashed out, doors frames bent, it looked like from being impacted by a cinder block, tires flattened...The car had been pushed or towed into the road from the parking area by the vandals, blocking traffic. Consider this was on a rural gravel road, the crime was committed in the early morning hours on a Saturday, and my car was parked a distance away from the residence.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">When Latah Sheriff deputies showed up, having been notified by someone driving that the road was blocked, they had my vandalized car towed, sticking me with the 100 dollar tow bill. I was sound asleep the whole time.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">After my car was towed away, the two Latah Sheriff deputies pounded on my door, waking me up. They informed me what had happened, and told me the identity of the tow truck business where my car was being held.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And the main relevance of this story to the naming of "suspects" by Wilson regarding the alleged "harassment?"</span></font></p></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">During my brief discussion of the vandalizing of my car with the Latah Sheriff deputies, one of them asked if I had any enemies, or could give them names of suspects. I offered none. Sure, I could have reeled off a list of people who might or do have something against me for one reason or another. But I felt I had nothing solid to go on to name anybody.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am not as naive as some on this list who seem to think that offering the police names of individuals who might be suspects in a crime, when you have no solid evidence to implicate them, is a trifling issue. I think it is highly ethically questionable to implicate others in crimes without solid grounds.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I could expand in great detail on this theme regarding the negative consequences of my name being unfairly given to law enforcement to implicate me in a crime, based on flimsy, unfounded "evidence." This can damage reputation, limit employment options, subject someone to embarrassing police scrutiny, if not harassment, etc.
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We see cases in the media where just naming someone as a suspect in a crime does tremendous damage to the person named, even when later they are totally exonerated. And police reports are public documents, are they not?
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It would appear so, given that the police reports in question are now on Tom Hansen's web site. I don't think law enforcement would release them to the public if they were meant to be kept "secret," unless forced legally by some means
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hansen, Metzler, et. al. are all justified in being very concerned about this issue, in my opinion.</span></font></p></div>
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