Tony,<br> <br> No reason to be raising a tissy. I did not put any words in your mouth, I quoted you exactly, word for word, with no intent to take anything you said out of context; I took your comments at face value. If I misquoted you, please show me where I did so and I will correct my error. <br> <br> It appears you have no argument, neither scientific, logical, or moral for your claims; just a bigoted unhealthy rant.<br> <br> <font face="Arial" size="2">You wrote, "I stated why the practice of anal "sex" was unwise in the age of AIDS. I was clinical and specific."<br> <br> Tony, are you unaware that anal sex does not cause AIDS? Do you understand that concept? What causes AIDS is unprotected sex with an infected partner.<br> A couple, gay or straight, can have anal sex everyday, and if neither one has AIDS, they will not contract it through that activity. Likewise, a couple, gay or straight, that only has heterosexual intercourse, can contract
it.<br> <br> Your argument demonstrates your extreme ignorance and prejudice in how AIDS and HIV is contracted. <br> <br> </font><font face="Arial" size="2">"Now think carefully Don, what part of that post do you take issue with and why?"<br> <br> I take issue with you presenting false and bigoted medical information as fact. That is dangerous. Now I ask you, why so much hostility against homosexuals?<br> </font><font face="Arial" size="2"><br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> </font><br><b><i>Tony Simpson <tonytime@clearwire.net></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2912" name="GENERATOR"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Donovan,</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">You insist upon demanding that I defend a position that I
never took. Do you just dig putting words in other's mouths, or were you not paying attention? I stated why the practice of anal "sex" was unwise in the age of AIDS. I was clinical and specific. At no time did I draw the conclusion that you attribute to me. Now think carefully Don, what part of that post do you take issue with and why?</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Patiently awaiting a reasonable response, --Tony </font>Original Message ----- </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt;
line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="tonytime@clearwire.net" href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net">Tony Simpson</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July
14, 2006 6:39 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] No victims??</div> <div><br></div>Tony,<br><br>I know you won't answer this question because you ignored my other four, but here it goes anyway.<br><br>You wrote:<br><br><font face="Arial" size="2">"Apparently 58 PERCENT of AIDS infections result from the behavior of homosexual males, with only 11 percent of cases transmitted heterosexually."<br><br>So if you conclude that homosexual behavior is wrong because 58% of contracted cases of AIDS in the United States are because of homosexual behavior; then do you also conclude that heterosexuality in China, India and Africa is wrong because 95% of cases there are created through sexual behavior of
heterosexuals?<br><br>Best,<br><br>_DJA<br></font><br><br><br><b><i>Tony Simpson <tonytime@clearwire.net></i></b> wrote: <blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2912" name="GENERATOR"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Donovan,</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">You ask if my complaint about risky sexual behavior in an age of AIDS should not be about homosexual behavior, but about anal intercourse among the population at large.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, Don, it should. And it is.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">However, you may choose to ponder the stats provided by ALERT on the link posted by
Wayne yesterday. Apparently 58 PERCENT of AIDS infections result from the behavior of homosexual males, with only 11 percent of cases transmitted heterosexually.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">At some point Don, you might wish to dispense with all the PC bullshit before we loose another generation to this plague.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">PC dogma be damned, --Tony</font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none
repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="tonytime@clearwire.net" href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net">Tony Simpson</a> ; <a title="sdredge@yahoo.com" href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott Dredge</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 14, 2006 1:53 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] No victims??</div> <div><br></div>Tony,<br><br>I wish to challenge some of your (mis)conceptions of homosexuals here;<br><br><font face="Arial" size="2">You state, <span style="color: rgb(191, 0, 95);">"Have you not heard of the AIDS epidemic?" </span></font><br style="color: rgb(191, 0, 95);"><br>1) How are two HIV- monogamously coupled
homosexuals more at risk to contract AIDS than a heterosexually married couple?<br><br><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="color: rgb(191, 0, 95);">"Surely you are aware of the inherent risks of anal "sex"?"</span><br style="color: rgb(191, 0, 95);"><br></font>2) Heterosexual couples also practice anal intercourse; while not all homosexuals couples do. Shouldn't your complaint be about the practice of anal intercourse, not the gender or sexual orientation of the individuals practicing it?<br><br>3) If unmarried gay men are the principle cause of the spread of AIDS and HIV in our country, should we not encourage gays to be monogamously coupled, shouldn't you be for gay marriage, not against it?<br><br><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="color: rgb(191, 0, 95);">"Choosing not to enable the self destructive"</span><br><br>4) So you are against the legalization of all things that could be destructive or dangerous including, fast food,
non-helmet use, abolishing alcohol, gambling, tobacco, pornography, and physical contact sports?<br></font><br>Best,<br><br>_DJA<br><br><b><i>Tony Simpson <tonytime@clearwire.net></i></b> wrote: <blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"> <style type="text/css">DIV { MARGIN: 0px } </style> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2912" name="GENERATOR"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Scott,</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Were you serious when you said that the practice of homosexuality does not result in anyone being victimized? Have you not heard of the AIDS epidemic? Surely you are aware of the inherent risks of anal "sex"?</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">The human
body was obviously NOT DESIGNED to be employed in this manner. Therefore, when one engages in such activities, one deliberately risks his life and the life of his "partner". If our society genuinely cared for the welfare of homosexuals, it would strongly advise them to discontinue such unnatural and unhealthy behaviors, just as it advises against the sharing of needles.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Choosing not to enable the self destructive, --Tony</font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="sdredge@yahoo.com" href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott Dredge</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch:
normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:30 AM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] The Great Debate</div> <div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">rvcowboy,<br><br>There are clearly victims involved in situations of adultery, rape, cheating, and stealing. Not so with homosexuality. Are you really unable to see the difference between consenual adult activity and scenarios of someone viciously hurting someone else?<br><br>-Scott<br> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;"> <div><br><br>"rvrcowboy" <<a
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