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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan, stop being a little prick. Do you
deny the stats I cited from ALERT that state that gay males are the group
primarily responsible for the spread of AIDS? It stands to reason pal,
they engage in one of the top 3 most riskiest behaviors and are notoriously
promiscuous.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If a simple truth is too difficult for you to
acknowledge, let me know and I will stop trying to engage you in productive
debate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Twit weary, --Tony</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tonytime@clearwire.net
href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net">Tony Simpson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 14, 2006 10:56
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] No
victims??</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tony,<BR><BR>No reason to be raising a tissy. I did not put any
words in your mouth, I quoted you exactly, word for word, with no intent to
take anything you said out of context; I took your comments at face value. If
I misquoted you, please show me where I did so and I will correct my error.
<BR><BR>It appears you have no argument, neither scientific, logical, or moral
for your claims; just a bigoted unhealthy rant.<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>You wrote, "I stated why the practice of anal "sex" was unwise in the
age of AIDS. I was clinical and specific."<BR><BR>Tony, are you unaware
that anal sex does not cause AIDS? Do you understand that concept? What causes
AIDS is unprotected sex with an infected partner.<BR>A couple, gay or
straight, can have anal sex everyday, and if neither one has AIDS, they will
not contract it through that activity. Likewise, a couple, gay or straight,
that only has heterosexual intercourse, can contract it.<BR><BR>Your argument
demonstrates your extreme ignorance and prejudice in how AIDS and HIV is
contracted. <BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Now think carefully Don,
what part of that post do you take issue with and why?"<BR><BR>I take
issue with you presenting false and bigoted medical information as fact. That
is dangerous. Now I ask you, why so much hostility against
homosexuals?<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR></FONT><BR><B><I>Tony Simpson
<tonytime@clearwire.net></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You insist upon demanding that I defend a
position that I never took. Do you just dig putting words in other's
mouths, or were you not paying attention? I stated why the practice of
anal "sex" was unwise in the age of AIDS. I was clinical and
specific. At no time did I draw the conclusion that you attribute to
me. Now think carefully Don, what part of that post do you take
issue with and why?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Patiently awaiting a reasonable response,
--Tony </FONT>Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=tonytime@clearwire.net href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net">Tony
Simpson</A> </DIV>
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<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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Friday, July 14, 2006 6:39 AM</DIV>
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Re: [Vision2020] No victims??</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tony,<BR><BR>I know you won't answer this question because
you ignored my other four, but here it goes anyway.<BR><BR>You
wrote:<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Apparently 58 PERCENT of AIDS
infections result from the behavior of homosexual males, with only 11
percent of cases transmitted heterosexually."<BR><BR>So if you conclude
that homosexual behavior is wrong because 58% of contracted cases of AIDS
in the United States are because of homosexual behavior; then do you also
conclude that heterosexuality in China, India and Africa is wrong
because 95% of cases there are created through sexual behavior of
heterosexuals?<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR></FONT><BR><BR><BR><B><I>Tony
Simpson <tonytime@clearwire.net></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You ask if my complaint about risky sexual
behavior in an age of AIDS should not be about homosexual behavior, but
about anal intercourse among the population at large.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, Don, it should. And it
is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, you may choose to ponder the stats
provided by ALERT on the link posted by Wayne yesterday.
Apparently 58 PERCENT of AIDS infections result from the behavior of
homosexual males, with only 11 percent of cases transmitted
heterosexually.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At some point Don, you might wish to
dispense with all the PC bullshit before we loose another generation to
this plague.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PC dogma be damned, --Tony</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=tonytime@clearwire.net
href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net">Tony Simpson</A> ; <A
title=sdredge@yahoo.com href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott
Dredge</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Cc:</B>
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, July 14, 2006 1:53 AM</DIV>
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Re: [Vision2020] No victims??</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tony,<BR><BR>I wish to challenge some of your
(mis)conceptions of homosexuals here;<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>You state, <SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(191,0,95)">"Have you not
heard of the AIDS epidemic?" </SPAN></FONT><BR
style="COLOR: rgb(191,0,95)"><BR>1) How are two HIV- monogamously
coupled homosexuals more at risk to contract AIDS than a
heterosexually married couple?<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(191,0,95)">"Surely you are aware of the inherent
risks of anal "sex"?"</SPAN><BR
style="COLOR: rgb(191,0,95)"><BR></FONT>2) Heterosexual couples also
practice anal intercourse; while not all homosexuals couples do.
Shouldn't your complaint be about the practice of anal intercourse,
not the gender or sexual orientation of the individuals practicing
it?<BR><BR>3) If unmarried gay men are the principle cause of the
spread of AIDS and HIV in our country, should we not encourage gays to
be monogamously coupled, shouldn't you be for gay marriage, not
against it?<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(191,0,95)">"Choosing not to enable the self
destructive"</SPAN><BR><BR>4) So you are against the legalization of
all things that could be destructive or dangerous including, fast
food, non-helmet use, abolishing alcohol, gambling, tobacco,
pornography, and physical contact
sports?<BR></FONT><BR>Best,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I>Tony Simpson
<tonytime@clearwire.net></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Scott,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Were you serious when you said that the
practice of homosexuality does not result in anyone being
victimized? Have you not heard of the AIDS epidemic?
Surely you are aware of the inherent risks of anal
"sex"?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The human body was obviously NOT
DESIGNED to be employed in this manner. Therefore, when one
engages in such activities, one deliberately risks his life and
the life of his "partner". If our society genuinely cared for
the welfare of homosexuals, it would strongly advise them to
discontinue such unnatural and unhealthy behaviors, just as it
advises against the sharing of needles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Choosing not to enable the self
destructive, --Tony</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=sdredge@yahoo.com href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott
Dredge</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] The Great Debate</DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif">rvcowboy,<BR><BR>There
are clearly victims involved in situations of adultery, rape,
cheating, and stealing. Not so with homosexuality. Are
you really unable to see the difference between consenual adult
activity and scenarios of someone viciously hurting someone
else?<BR><BR>-Scott<BR>
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<DIV><BR><BR>"rvrcowboy" <<A
href="mailto:rvrcowboy@clearwire.net">rvrcowboy@clearwire.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>-----------------------------------------------<BR>--
SNIP --<BR>I agree with you that Jesus' overwhelming <BR>message
is that we love one another. I just don't believe that
loving one another justifies our <BR>sins. Please
understand, I don't rate the sin of homosexuality any differently
than adultrey, <BR>rape, cheating, stealing, or any other
sin.<BR><BR></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
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