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<DIV><FONT size=4>Ellen,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Here's the curious thing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>What does it matter when it was written? Has Wilson's
alleged God or Wilson (remember we may be referring to the same thing here with
both titles) changed over the last 15 years?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I thought that Wilson and/or his god was
immutable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>What is interesting is that the Cultmaster is unwilling to
give a straight, unambiguous response as to whether he/she thinks the article is
true and/or represents cult dogma. Is his favorite color
yellow?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Below are some extracts from the article at issue and some
comments on the Cultmaster's immutability.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>________________________________________</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>From <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Credenda/Agenda</I> (Christ Church Cult
Official Organ), by Gregory Dickison [Comments added]:</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><A
href="http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"
size=3>http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm</FONT></A></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><o:p><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>"The<B> civil magistrate</B> is the minister of
God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer (<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">Rom.</st1:country-region></st1:place> 13:4). God has not left his
civil minister without guidance on how to exercise his office. The Scriptures
set forth clear standards of judgment for many offenses. Capital crimes, for
example, include <B>premeditated killing (murder), kidnapping, sorcery,
bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, and cursing one's
parents</B>..."</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>"In contemporary American jurisprudence, none of
these offenses is punishable by death, with the occasional exception of murder.
The magistrates have dispensed with God's standards of justice. Some Christians
believe this is an improvement. They would be horrified to think that the
"harsh" penalties of the law should still be applied. Sometimes this is the
result of the <B>mistaken belief</B> that the Old Testament has no further
application after the advent of Christ. This is an exegetical problem. Too
often, it is the result of a sinful view of the criminal. <B>This sin is called
pity.</B>"</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><I><FONT size=3>"If your brother, the son of your mother,
your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your
own soul, secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and serve other gods,". . .
you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor
shall you spare him or conceal him; </FONT></I><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 36pt; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">but you shall
surely kill him</SPAN></I></B><FONT size=3><I>..."</I> [Comment:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Heresy</SPAN></B><FONT
size=3>: Beware, ye not of the cult!]</FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><I><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>"If two men fight together, and the wife of one
draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and
puts out the hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her
hand; your eye shall not pity her..." </FONT></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=3>God commands the judge to evaluate the
<I>crime</I> rather than the criminal. </FONT><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red">If the crime is one for which God requires
death, then death <I><U>must </U></I>be the punishment.</SPAN></B><FONT size=3>
Your eye <I>shall not pity</I>. <B>Neither is the repentance of the accused
relevant to the imposition of the sentence.</B> </FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Thus, the Bible teaches that pity is not an
option where God has decided the matter. The [civil] magistrate, God's minister,
is to faithfully execute justice according to God's standard, not man's... This
means that we must return to an obedience which confines pity within the bounds
which God has established for us."</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"
size=3>_______________________________________________________________________________</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">ACCURACY
MATTERS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Christ</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></SPAN></st1:place><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> pastor Doug Wilson
was incorrectly quoted in the weekend paper due to a <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Daily News</I> error.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In the front page
article headlined, "Both sides point fingers; can there be
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">a middle ground?"
<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Wilson</st1:City></st1:place> was quoted as
saying:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I've never been in
anything like this, and I've never changed my views on
anything."<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">What he actually
said was:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I've never been in
anything like this, </SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">and I've never
changed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I've never changed what I
do, </SPAN></B><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">[sic]</SPAN></B><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> I've not changed
anything.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1.5pt solid; mso-element: para-border-div">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 1.0pt 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT size=3></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT size=3></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT size=5>When anyone says:</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT size=3></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT size=3>"I've never changed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I've never changed what I do, [sic] I've
not changed anything."<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Most would take the ordinary
meaning of this most curious and revealing utterance as:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I have never made a
mistake!!!"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">For those Christians who believe
that in some unfathomable, non-linguistically-intelligible/expressible way their
alleged God, alleged Holy Ghost, and Jesus are one and the same, the only being
who could assert that she/he/it has never made a mistake is an incarnations of
</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">GOD
HIMSELF</SPAN></B><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Hence, the above quote from Cult
Master Wilson is equivalent to saying:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I am
God!!!"</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">[Can you say "Are we dealing with
severe mental health problems here?"?]<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">However, in the delusional
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Wilson</st1:City></st1:place>'s
defense, one could say he does resemble in one very pivotal way a certain Greek
God:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Narcissus*</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black">*Narcissus</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> is remembered for having fallen in love with
himself.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 5pt 0in; mso-layout-grid-align: none"> </P></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></FONT>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=gussie443@hotmail.com href="mailto:gussie443@hotmail.com">Ellen
Roskovich</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=deaconblues42@gmail.com
href="mailto:deaconblues42@gmail.com">deaconblues42@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] The Keely Emerine Mix / Doug Wilson
discussion</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>
<P><STRONG>I know I was very surprised last night when I heard Doug Wilson tell
the audience that the Dickison article was from 15 years ago. I really
thought it was more recent. </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>So, was the article WRITTEN 15 years ago and only published more
recently when they were looking for stuff to fill a few pages?</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Also, on the Credenda Agenda website there's only 45 publications
listed between Vol. 3, no. 9 (the one in question) and the current Vol.12,
No. 1. So, Deacon, I don't know if your equation is going to work.
That means there would be around 3 actual magazines printed per year. . .
is that right?</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>As you can see, I'm pretty confussed by the whole thing. . . and Tom
is going to make us all wait until TOMORROW to give us the answer. . . .
Darn.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>P.S. Can't forget the new tradition. . . a sports update!
Barbaro underwent surgery and his condition is
serious.</STRONG><BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>"Deacon James"
<deaconblues42@gmail.com></I><BR>To: <I>"Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com></I><BR>CC: <I>Vision2020 Moscow
<vision2020@moscow.com></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020]
The Keely Emerine Mix / Doug Wilson discussion</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed,
12 Jul 2006 15:11:36 -0700</I><BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>Well, I don't know if I have "direct links" to Anselm House, so
I thought I'd give it a try.<BR><BR>According the article on your site, it is
from volume 3, number 9. The current Credenda is volume 18, number 2. So,
considering that volumes are incremented annually, I would guess that it was
published roughly 15 (18 minus 3) years ago.
<DIV></DIV><BR><BR>Do I win??? If so, let me know where I can pick up my
CD.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Deacon<BR><BR>P.S. The American League owns the
National League.<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/12/06, <B class=gmail_sendername></DIV>Tom
Hansen</B> <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Doug "His
Whineyness" Wilson's claim that
<DIV></DIV>the article was written 15 years ago is . . . how do I put
this . . .
<DIV></DIV>wrong.</SPAN></FONT>
<P></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But then I know
when it was written.
<DIV></DIV>How do I know? I noted the issue and date when I downloaded
it from the Credenda
<DIV></DIV>site. I could tell you right here qand now as to when it
was
<DIV></DIV>written. But that would be taking the fun out of
it.</SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Check it out for
yourselves at:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.notonthepalouse.com/your_eye_shall_not_pity.htm">
<DIV></DIV>http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/your_eye_shall_not_pity.htm</A></SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is a free MP3
CD of last night's
<DIV></DIV>discussion in it for the guess that come the closes.
</SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Those of you with
links to Anselm House
<DIV></DIV>are disqualified from entering. There is an outside chance
that you might
<DIV></DIV>actually know the answer to this query in spite of what Doug
Wilson said last
<DIV></DIV>night.</SPAN></FONT>
<P></P>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This offer
terminates tomorrow (Thursday,
<DIV></DIV>7/13/2006) morning at 10:00 AM when I temporarily exchange the
friendly terrain
<DIV></DIV>of the Palouse for the crowded community of Thousand Oaks,
California.</SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV></DIV>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>] <B><SPAN
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<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, July
11, 2006 9:26
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<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Vision2020
Moscow<BR>
<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Vision2020] The Keely
<DIV></DIV>Emerine Mix / Doug Wilson discussion</SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am
listening to the fascinating discussion between Keely and Doug on
<DIV></DIV>KRFP, so I'll make this brief. Keely made reference to an article
Christ Church
<DIV></DIV>attorney and former public defender Greg Dickison wrote for
Credenda Agenda
<DIV></DIV>called "Your Eye Shall Not Pity." This article came up in
reference
<DIV></DIV>to a call from Lois Blackburn asking if Doug still believed in
offering
<DIV></DIV>homosexuals the "option" of being stoned to death or exile. Keely
<DIV></DIV>referred to the article, noting that it had been written said in
2003. In
<DIV></DIV>response, Doug said that it was written some 15 years ago. (What
Doug didn't do
<DIV></DIV>was actually answer Lois' question.) <BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV>Anyhow, I now have satellite, so I thought I'd do a quick search
of the
<DIV></DIV>Credenda Agenda archives. Greg's article appeared in Volume 3.
Unfortunately,
<DIV></DIV>Credenda online seems to have been updated and copyrighted in
2005, or so says
<DIV></DIV>the note at the bottom of the screen. The magazine now skips from
Volume 2 to
<DIV></DIV>Volume 7. Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6 are missing. <BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV>Good thing we have Tom Hansen's website, <A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/">www.tomandrodna.com</A>! Greg's article,
<DIV></DIV>"Your Eye Shall Not Pity," may be read there in its entirety,
<DIV></DIV>unedited and unexpurgated. Perhaps after the show, Doug might pay
Tom's website
<DIV></DIV>a visit and re-read Greg's piece. Keely asked Doug if he was now
distancing
<DIV></DIV>himself from Greg's piece and Credenda's published position on
homosexuality.
<DIV></DIV>Doug has yet to give a direct answer.<BR>
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<P><STRONG>I know I was very surprised last night when I heard Doug Wilson tell
the audience that the Dickison article was from 15 years ago. I really
thought it was more recent. </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>So, was the article WRITTEN 15 years ago and only published more
recently when they were looking for stuff to fill a few pages?</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Also, on the Credenda Agenda website there's only 45 publications
listed between Vol. 3, no. 9 (the one in question) and the current Vol.12,
No. 1. So, Deacon, I don't know if your equation is going to work.
That means there would be around 3 actual magazines printed per year. . .
is that right?</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>As you can see, I'm pretty confussed by the whole thing. . . and Tom
is going to make us all wait until TOMORROW to give us the answer. . . .
Darn.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>P.S. Can't forget the new tradition. . . a sports update!
Barbaro underwent surgery and his condition is
serious.</STRONG><BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>"Deacon James"
<deaconblues42@gmail.com></I><BR>To: <I>"Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com></I><BR>CC: <I>Vision2020 Moscow
<vision2020@moscow.com></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020]
The Keely Emerine Mix / Doug Wilson discussion</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed,
12 Jul 2006 15:11:36 -0700</I><BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>Well, I don't know if I have "direct links" to Anselm House, so
I thought I'd give it a try.<BR><BR>According the article on your site, it is
from volume 3, number 9. The current Credenda is volume 18, number 2. So,
considering that volumes are incremented annually, I would guess that it was
published roughly 15 (18 minus 3) years ago.
<DIV></DIV><BR><BR>Do I win??? If so, let me know where I can pick up my
CD.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Deacon<BR><BR>P.S. The American League owns the
National League.<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/12/06, <B class=gmail_sendername></DIV>Tom
Hansen</B> <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Doug "His
Whineyness" Wilson's claim that
<DIV></DIV>the article was written 15 years ago is . . . how do I put
this . . .
<DIV></DIV>wrong.</SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But then I know
when it was written.
<DIV></DIV>How do I know? I noted the issue and date when I downloaded
it from the Credenda
<DIV></DIV>site. I could tell you right here qand now as to when it
was
<DIV></DIV>written. But that would be taking the fun out of
it.</SPAN></FONT>
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yourselves at:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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href="http://www.notonthepalouse.com/your_eye_shall_not_pity.htm">
<DIV></DIV>http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/your_eye_shall_not_pity.htm</A></SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is a free MP3
CD of last night's
<DIV></DIV>discussion in it for the guess that come the closes.
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Those of you with
links to Anselm House
<DIV></DIV>are disqualified from entering. There is an outside chance
that you might
<DIV></DIV>actually know the answer to this query in spite of what Doug
Wilson said last
<DIV></DIV>night.</SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This offer
terminates tomorrow (Thursday,
<DIV></DIV>7/13/2006) morning at 10:00 AM when I temporarily exchange the
friendly terrain
<DIV></DIV>of the Palouse for the crowded community of Thousand Oaks,
California.</SPAN></FONT>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
<DIV></DIV><A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>
[mailto:<A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">
<DIV></DIV>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Joan Opyr<BR>
<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, July
11, 2006 9:26
<DIV></DIV>PM<BR>
<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Vision2020
Moscow<BR>
<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Vision2020] The Keely
<DIV></DIV>Emerine Mix / Doug Wilson discussion</SPAN></FONT>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am
listening to the fascinating discussion between Keely and Doug on
<DIV></DIV>KRFP, so I'll make this brief. Keely made reference to an article
Christ Church
<DIV></DIV>attorney and former public defender Greg Dickison wrote for
Credenda Agenda
<DIV></DIV>called "Your Eye Shall Not Pity." This article came up in
reference
<DIV></DIV>to a call from Lois Blackburn asking if Doug still believed in
offering
<DIV></DIV>homosexuals the "option" of being stoned to death or exile. Keely
<DIV></DIV>referred to the article, noting that it had been written said in
2003. In
<DIV></DIV>response, Doug said that it was written some 15 years ago. (What
Doug didn't do
<DIV></DIV>was actually answer Lois' question.) <BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV>Anyhow, I now have satellite, so I thought I'd do a quick search
of the
<DIV></DIV>Credenda Agenda archives. Greg's article appeared in Volume 3.
Unfortunately,
<DIV></DIV>Credenda online seems to have been updated and copyrighted in
2005, or so says
<DIV></DIV>the note at the bottom of the screen. The magazine now skips from
Volume 2 to
<DIV></DIV>Volume 7. Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6 are missing. <BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV>Good thing we have Tom Hansen's website, <A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/">www.tomandrodna.com</A>! Greg's article,
<DIV></DIV>"Your Eye Shall Not Pity," may be read there in its entirety,
<DIV></DIV>unedited and unexpurgated. Perhaps after the show, Doug might pay
Tom's website
<DIV></DIV>a visit and re-read Greg's piece. Keely asked Doug if he was now
distancing
<DIV></DIV>himself from Greg's piece and Credenda's published position on
homosexuality.
<DIV></DIV>Doug has yet to give a direct answer.<BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV></DIV>But I'm waiting. And waiting, and waiting . . .<BR>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
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