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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Having retired from the Army with over 20
years of service, I have been called everything but “mister”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom “The Immature Dolt” Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>"Life should NOT be a journey to the
grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the
other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
ride!'"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rvrcowboy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 03, 2006 1:05
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Vision2020; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Joan Opyr</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Norton AntiSpam] Re:
[Vision2020] Doug or Douglas Farris? (Was: A few Sunday thoughts)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>On July 3 <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Joan Opyr</st1:PersonName>
wrote: </span></font>"I suppose Doug is trying to annoy and/or
insult me. I have said before that I don't care to be called Mary. My mother
calls me Joan, and she has done so all of my life. In light of this, calling me
Mary is a bit silly. No, wait -- it's juvenile. A marked lack of maturity is
the problem I originally identified among Kirk men who post to this list."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Joan,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Well worded. This is exactly how I feel about Tom
Hansen's use of a lower case letter for my name. I informed him about my
feelings, as you indicate you have asked Doug not to call you Mary. At
least now you know how I feel about Tom... he is immature and a total dolt.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:joanopyr@moscow.com" title="joanopyr@moscow.com">Joan Opyr</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020
Moscow</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, July 03,
2006 12:17 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [Vision2020] Doug
or Douglas Farris? (Was: A few Sunday thoughts)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:08
AM, Michael wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><tt><?x-tad-smaller><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Doug,</span></font><?/x-tad-smaller></tt><br>
<tt><?x-tad-smaller><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
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<tt><?x-tad-smaller><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>You misrepresent what Joan said. First, she was speaking to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wilson</st1:place></st1:City>’s practice of
stirring up controversies and poking neighbors in the eye in order to get a
publicizing response (a practice going back more than 15 years from what I
know); she was not speaking of your “silent grace” of planting kingdom
seeds. Second, she said she did not care about the theological issues;
but she noted those issues she did care about. I appreciate your attempt
to actually interact with what she said; this seems an improvement. But
perhaps your lack of success is in part due to your arrogant insults against
her, someone who is clearly more educated and experienced with public writing
than you. She is also the most enjoyable writer to post on V2020 (I’m sure
others would agree).</span></font><?/x-tad-smaller></tt><br>
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<tt><?x-tad-smaller><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Michael</span></font><?/x-tad-smaller></tt><o:p></o:p></p>
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Thank you, Michael. I appreciate not only your kind words but also your elegant
attempt to get Doug Farris to address what I actually said. <br>
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I am puzzled as to why Doug insists on addressing me as Mary. That is indeed my
first name, but only my great aunts have ever called me by it, and then only in
tandem with my middle name, Joan. I'm originally from the South.
Double-barreled names like Mary Joan, Joe Bob, and Richard Earl are commonplace.
I suppose Doug is trying to annoy and/or insult me. I have said before that I
don't care to be called Mary. My mother calls me Joan, and she has done so all
of my life. In light of this, calling me Mary is a bit silly. No, wait -- it's
juvenile. A marked lack of maturity is the problem I originally identified
among Kirk men who post to this list. Indeed, it was the entire point of the
first paragraph of my previous post, and here we see it fully illustrated. <br>
<br>
[FYI: there was a kid in my elementary school who insisted on calling me
Opyr-goat. That didn't bother me much, either, as it didn't make any sense.
Opyr is the Ukrainian word for vampire. See if you can make something out of
that.]<br>
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As for your second point, you may not like it, Doug, but I am just as much a
public figure as your minister. No amount of "get over yourself" will
make this not so. I write; I publish; I have a reading audience. I exist well
outside the bounds of Vision 2020. You know this, of course. You're just being
obnoxious. If I were not a public figure, I might have some legal recourse when
your friend, Dale Courtney, steals my photograph from New West Magazine and
posts it to his website. I write regular columns for several journals, and my
work is reprinted in many others. That may not make you happy, but it is a
demonstrable fact. I'm not happy that Ann Coulter has a reading audience, but
damn the McCarthy-loving fascist wing-nut, she does -- and a big one, too. I
don't claim to have anything akin to Ann Coulter's reach, but my first novel is
in bookstores and enjoying brisk sales, and a sequel is on the way. I don't
expect that you've read Idaho Code, and I certainly don't recommend it to you.
To judge from your posts, you wouldn't enjoy it. You'd like the sequel, From
Hell to Breakfast, even less.<br>
<br>
If you're going to criticize me, Doug, please try focusing on the genuine
rather than the imagined. Try concentrating on what I've actually said and not
on your own wishful thinking. Ignore the straw (wo)man. You are talking to --
or, rather, at -- a real person with real ideas, and those real ideas have real
consequences. I am not the bogeywoman of your fevered imaginings. Would that I
were. I'd happily climb back into the closet just long enough to jump out at
you and yell "boo!" And I'd be sure to bring my digital camera.<br>
<br>
A few real issues with which to begin? Try explaining your pastor's
"serrated edge." Try telling us how your behavior on this list and on
Dale's blog is exemplary of the true Christian spirit and furthers the spread of
the gospel. Would Jesus call me as Mary knowing that I went by Joan? If so,
would I be justified in calling him Chuck? I have said that <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
has far too many "future men" in its midst, men who evince a decided
lack of maturity and who rely on juvenile insult rather than reasoned debate.
Prove me wrong. Try being mature. If you don't want to answer me, then why not
answer Michael, your brother in Christ? When you do so, see if you're able to
refrain from calling him "Mike-Dogg," or any other such nonsense.
Don't ask him if he has a fear of being naked. Try to act your age. Try not to
make a fool of yourself.<br>
<br>
You've made much of being the father of nine, Doug. It's not fair to expect
your wife to raise a man-child who's in his forties.<br>
<br>
Joan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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