Andreas,<br> <br> Sorry for the delayed response. Your answers were rather ambiguous.<br> <br> Your wrote:<br> <pre><tt>"The people now in Guantanamo were selected based on<br>informants from rival ethnic groups and information extracted through<br>torture." <br><br><span style="font-family: arial;">I don't believe that to be the case for all. No doubt some prisoners will claim that. I have no doubt all<br>prisoners everywhere are not all guilty either, or given a fair trial, and some are in for racial<br>and bigoted reasons. However, few would, like you, argue that we let them all go because<br>some are innocent. I think the risks are too great.<br><br>You also wrote:<br><br></span></tt>"You know what, Donovan? If you want to repeal the 4th Amendment or<br>break our commitment to the 3rd Geneva Convention, I'll take that<br>fight. And the American people will come out on my side. But until<br>they do, the government has no right to pretend that neither
exist."<br><br>You misunderstand two things here Andreas. First, <span style="font-family: arial;">the detainees are not POWs.<br>So the Geneva Convention does not apply. They are not enlisted by a country to fight a war. They have<br>no ranks, no structure, not even a uniform. If they were, we could simply go to the country we were fighting and drop a bomb.<br>Second, the United States has the right to detain anybody they wish from any foreign country in which that<br> nation's government is unwilling or unable to control its citizens and has demonstrated the potential and ability <br>to do harm against US citizens at home or abroad. The very main reason a government exists to protect its<br>citizens from foreign harm and invasion. If the United States believes that people will kill US citizens if freed, it has an<br>obligation, and the moral authority to detain that person or persons until such time as they are no longer a threat.<br><br>Andreas, there are people
out there that want to harm innocent people here in the US, and would do so if our military<br> and government workers were not hard at work trying to stop it. Not all foreigners want to drop rose pedals at our feet.<br> For you to say that we should allow foreigners to attack this nation is down right treasonous IMHO.<br><br>Also for you to suggest that the Military is so incompetent that it only has a bunch of milkmen and school teachers locked<br>up because they were turned in by bigots is such a foolish and sheltered view of the world.<br><br>Having said that, I totally agree that all the detainees should be given decent treatment, not tortured, sexually harassed,<br>insulted, or forced to reveal information through mistreatment. I believe anyone that blatantly disregards the rights and proper<br>treatment of these detainees should be brought up on charges and dismissed from their duties.<br><br>I also believe that the government should making a good faith
effort to free people it finds not to be a threat and looking for ones it may<br>have missed that are a threat. <br><br>However, for the government to set free people they know are going to try and bring harm to innocent civilians is <br>unforgivable, and I cannot understand why someone would think that was a good idea.<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>_DJA<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br></span></pre> <br><br><b><i>Andreas Schou <ophite@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On 6/15/06, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""> wrote:<br>><br>> "Long before a suicide bomber commits the crime of murder, he has<br>> engaged in the crime of conspiracy, or providing material support to a<br>> terrorist organization, or any number of crimes that don't require him<br>> to have blown himself up in a public square."<br>><br>>
Andreas,<br>><br>> Based on what do you make this bold claim? You don't think that terrorist<br>> commit these crimes on their own accord?<br><br>Yes.<br><br>> You don't think it is possible that we have enough to know they are planning<br>> something but not enough to get a conviction?<br><br>Yes.<br><br>> You want the US to just let free all the suspected terrorists that wish<br>> death to the US?<br><br>Yes.<br><br>> Then when we have completed our 15 year public investigation, tipping off<br>> the terrorist organizations where we have infiltrated them, go arrest the<br>> ones we are sure would receive a life sentence?<br><br>Yes.<br><br>> Do you honestly believe that people being held by the United States were<br>> randomly selected in a lottery?<br><br>Pretty much. The people now in Guantanamo were selected based on<br>informants from rival ethnic groups and information extracted through<br>torture. Both produce unreliable
information.<br><br>> Unfortunately, it is not possible, or practical to be able to give an<br>> individual trial for each and every suspected person threatening to cause harm to the US.<br><br>You know what, Donovan? If you want to repeal the 4th Amendment or<br>break our commitment to the 3rd Geneva Convention, I'll take that<br>fight. And the American people will come out on my side. But until<br>they do, the government has no right to pretend that neither exist.<br><br>-- ACS<br><br>=====================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> http://www.fsr.net <br> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>====================================================<br></donovanjarnold2005></blockquote><br><p> __________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best
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