<pre><tt>"The question is, Why didn't the congregation, and the community, find <br>out sooner? Why didn't I find out about this sooner than last week?<span style="font-family: arial;">"--Joe Campbell<br><br>I will explain it you one last time, Joe. It would have interfered with the investigation and been illegal for<br>Wilson to do that. Is that clear, cuz I don't know how to make it any clearer? Maybe you can call the police and<br>ask for a much more detailed clarification as to why they don't like people messing with their investigations if the<br>reasons are not self-evident to you? Division 2020 has already had this conversation, sorry you missed it, Joe. <br><br>Let's get back to other unfounded character assignations of Doug Wilson. I want to hear your response Joe, on<br>Wilson telling a 6 year old boy there is no Santa. <br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>_DJA<br></span></tt></pre> <br><b><i>Joe Campbell <joekc@adelphia.net></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq"
style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I think that you are missing the point, Donovan. <br><br>The claim is not that Wilson is somehow responsible for the deads of Sitler. That is absurd. Sitler did the deads, not Wilson.<br><br>The question is, Why didn't the congregation, and the community, find out sooner? Why didn't I find out about this sooner than last week?<br><br>You keep describing this particular incident as part of something more general but it alone is a bit unsettling.<br><br>Best, Joe<br><br>---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""> wrote: <br><br>=============<br>Ellen,<br> <br> The police knew about the allegations and Sitler had ZERO access to members of the congregation's children. With that being the case, Wilson had no legal authority to gossip about a member of his congregation before trial and would have been interfering with the case and investigation if he had. <br> <br>So
people are simply trying to make the case, unsuccessfully, that Wilson placed children in his congregation at risk of being exploited by Sitler after it was discovered he was harming children. This is false, the police will tell you it is false, and not one shred of evidence can be presented that contradicts that fact. These are unfounded accusations based on speculation with an intent to assassinate the character of Douglas Wilson. If Wilson had Sitler chained in his basement during the investigation I am sure several people would be saying the same thing.<br> <br> Wilson did not enable Sitler to molest children. I know several want it to be true, because that would destroy Wilson. But it isn't. So let us hear a new unfounded allegation already so we can show that one is untrue like the others. <br> <br> I heard Wilson told a six year old boy there was no Santa--rumor, speculation, doesn't matter, this is Division 2020. <br> <br> Best Regards,<br> <br>
_DJA<br><br>Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 @hotmail.com=""> wrote: Donovan. . . I don't think this is about notifying authorities. By "other people" I think the poster is refering to the congregation of Christ Church. At least that's how I understood it.<br> Ellen<br><br><br><br> <br> <br>---------------------------------<br> <br>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>To: second plank <secondplank @yahoo.com="">, vision2020 <vision2020 @moscow.com=""><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wilson makes Somebody furious!<br>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:22:56 -0700 (PDT)<br> <br><br>I am afraid all the information presented here by this anonymous poster is incorrect. Police were contacted immediately after Wilson found out about Sitler's monstrous actions. This has already been explained several times.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br><br>second plank <secondplank @yahoo.com=""> wrote: This is worth posting here. Taken from a
comment at<br>http://rc-sproul-jr.blogspot.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-crec-pastor-doug-wilson.html<br><br>That 8 month gap between when Wilson found out Sitler<br>had molested children in Christchurch and when Wilson<br>let other people know is what bothers me the most.<br>And my fellow anonymous posters- it doesn't matter<br>where Sitler was in all that time or what he was<br>doing.<br>Wilson was basically relying on SITLER to tell him<br>which, if any, other children he'd abused. <br>Relying on<br>the word of a pediophile to protect the sheep was<br>criminally negligent on Wilson's part. He gave Sitler<br>8 months of grace,whereby any small children he'd<br>molested could get confused and foggy on the details<br>of what happened to them. He abused children as young<br>as two years of age. Eight months is a long time for<br>the parents of all the two year olds in your church<br>not to be told they might have been exposed to a<br>molester.<br><br>It's not his fault Sitler
was a creep. It's not his<br>fault that Sitler put himself in a position where he<br>had access to children- that's what predators of his<br>type do. It's not his fault that kids were molested.<br>But it is his fault that he didn't make that<br>information available immediately to his flock so that<br>they could check with their children and make sure no<br>harm had been done. If there are any children Sitler<br>molested (or young girls that other man tampered with)<br>that Wilson <br>didn't know about because he trusted<br>Sitler's word, then Wilson is responsible for the<br>eight month period those children have been left alone<br>with the pain and horror they experienced, with nobody<br>to treat them, to help them, to reassure them because<br>Wilson decided his church did not need to know a child<br>molester had been with them until the sentencing.<br>It is inexcusable not to let the flock in on this<br>until eight months have gone by and the ability of the<br>smallest
victims to recount what happened to them<br>completely lost. It was inexcusable to take Sitler's<br>word for it that he'd told Wilson everything.<br>Accountability alone would demand that he would check<br>up on Sitler's story as best he could, and basic<br>concern for the children would require that he let<br>parents know asap so that they could make sure their<br>children hadn't been injured.<br><br>The parents in your church should have known within<br>days of the confession, Mr. <br>Firsthand, not within days<br>of the sentencing.<br><br>And now we know that Sitler was still posting pictures<br>of children from Christchurch on his family's website<br>up until the day he was sentenced- and Wilson says he<br>didn't know about that. Maybe Sitler wasn't as<br>reliable as Wilson thought- and it's not Wilson paying<br>for that, it's any other children he molested that he<br>didn't tell Wilson about.<br>If Wilson was concerned about that possibility, he'd<br>have let his
flock know 8 months sooner than he did,<br>but it looks to me like the only concerns he had were<br>to protect himself- maybe he just didn't want fresh<br>accusations coming out against Sitler. After all,<br>NSA's lawyer had the supposedly 'repentant' Sitler<br>plea bargain down to pleading guilty to only count,<br>even though he had confessed to others.<br><br>And that members of his flock can defend him for<br>keeping this vital information to himself for all<br>those months is just <br>totally disturbing. What's WRONG<br>with you sycophants?<br><br>If my pastor told me "Eight months ago a man<br>accustomed to visiting our church confessed to abusing<br>some children, and he's going to be sentenced tthis<br>month, so you should all know about it now," I would<br>be furious.<br><br>__________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <br>http://mail.yahoo.com
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