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<DIV><FONT size=4>Donovan,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Is it your contention that there is nothing about the MPD that
either needs improvement or is likely to need improvement in the future or
actions to prevent degradation in the future?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art
Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:54 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Stout Not Wrong n Union Support / Police
UnionStandNot a Conflict</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><PRE><TT>"Is it then your contention that raising salaries and improving working <BR>conditions in the MPD will not promote the hiring and retention of more <BR>able, effective police officers?" Wayne Fox (Art Deco)<BR><BR>Wayne, sounds to me that you are saying our police are not<BR>able or effective enough for Moscow. I am happy with the ones<BR>we got. Why do we need to have better ones, assuming there are better ones?<BR><BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><BR></TT></PRE><BR><BR><B><I>Art
Deco <deco@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Gary,<BR><BR>Is
it then your contention that raising salaries and improving working
<BR>conditions in the MPD will not promote the hiring and retention of more
<BR>able, effective police officers?<BR><BR>W.<BR><BR>----- Original Message
----- <BR>From: "g. crabtree" <JAMPOT @adelphia.net=""><BR>To: "Tom Hansen"
<THANSEN @moscow.com="">; "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <BR><VISION2020
@moscow.com=""><BR>Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:08 PM<BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Stout Not Wrong n Union Support / Police <BR>UnionStandNot a
Conflict<BR><BR><BR>> First name familiarity and approachability are
charming concepts but I <BR>> really do not see how they out weigh the
negatives of the union or even <BR>> enhance law enforcement in the
community in any appreciable way. (this <BR>> isn't Detroit or Newark after
all) Perhaps it would be good if you did go <BR>> on a bit longer because
the only picture I get is of my tax bill going <BR>> through the roof and
nothing of substance to show for it, except a fatter <BR>> union and big
grins on a couple of councilmen.<BR>><BR>> gc<BR>> ----- Original
Message ----- <BR>> From: "Tom Hansen" <THANSEN @moscow.com=""><BR>> To:
"'g. crabtree'" <JAMPOT @adelphia.net="">; "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <BR>>
<VISION2020 @moscow.com=""><BR>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:28 PM<BR>>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Stout Not Wrong n Union Support / Police Union
<BR>> StandNot a Conflict<BR>><BR>><BR>>> One MAJOR problem
that the Moscow Police Department is experiencing is <BR>>>
lack<BR>>> of continuity. After a year officers tend to pack up and move
to <BR>>> "greener<BR>>> pastures", primarily due to
wages/salaries that are not competitive (here <BR>>> in<BR>>>
Moscow) with other comparably-sized community police departments.<BR>>>
Ultimately this results in loss of quality police
officers.<BR>>><BR>>> Establishing a police union will ensure the
rights and privileges for our<BR>>> police department; rights and
privileges that have up until just recently<BR>>> received nothing more
than lip service from our city council.<BR>>><BR>>> Once
continuity is established, the community becomes familiar with <BR>>>
members<BR>>> of its police force. The community gains first name
familiarity with the<BR>>> officers responsible for protecting its
streets. This level of <BR>>> familiarity<BR>>> breeds a
relationship where police officers become very
approachable.<BR>>><BR>>> I could go on and on about how such a
relationship benefits the<BR>>> neighborhoods, but I am sure you get the
picture already.<BR>>><BR>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>>><BR>>> "If not us, who?<BR>>> If not now,
when?"<BR>>><BR>>> - Unknown<BR>>><BR>>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>>> From: g. crabtree
[mailto:jampot@adelphia.net]<BR>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:58
PM<BR>>> To: Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020<BR>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Stout Not Wrong n Union Support / Police Union<BR>>>
StandNot a Conflict<BR>>><BR>>> Ray writes a fine letter as far as
it goes. The question I have yet to <BR>>> see<BR>>> answered
satisfactorily is how is a unionized police force is good for <BR>>>
the<BR>>> city and by extension the citizens? It's easy to see that it
will be good<BR>>> for the union. More dues. It will be good for
politicians who support it.<BR>>> More contributions. It might be good
for the police. More wages and<BR>>> benifits, perhaps. But good for the
people of Moscow as a whole? That <BR>>> hasn't<BR>>><BR>>>
been established by any stretch of the imagination. In fact its not too
<BR>>> hard<BR>>><BR>>> to envision several negative
outcomes that will be brought about by union<BR>>> recognition not the
least of which will be greatly increased costs.<BR>>><BR>>>
gc<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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