<font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Ed,<br> <br> Can you justify this statement you made?<br> <br> "True conservatives advocate equal rights for all; liberals want special privileges for every diversity or enclave in the States. "<br> <br> I don't know of any liberals advocating special rights for anyone. Perhaps you care to point some out. I am not a liberal, but I also know the difference between special rights for some and equal rights for all. <br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> </font><br><b><i>Ed <ecooper@turbonet.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Chas,</font></div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS"
size="2">I'm glad to see you're reading material from quality web sites. Horowitz is not my hero, but a great visionary and thinker. He makes some valid points in the article; but, in my estimation, he fails to stress the importance of our Constitutionally-grounded individual rights in a society that is increasingly demanding group rights. </font></div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">True conservatives advocate equal rights for all; liberals want special privileges for every diversity or enclave in the States. In my estimation, he (Horowitz) was a bit over the line in his dismissal of the KKK analogy. The KKK is somebody--even though their intentions/actions are racially-driven. However, one could categorize both these groups' agendas as harmful, detrimental to society. (Note, I don't advocate violence towards any person or any group--or kicking someone in the groin for that
matter. )</font></div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">In sum, the article was well-written, but failed to mention his true feelings about the homosexual agenda..</font></div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">FWIW, my idol (if I had one) would be Lawrence Auster...another Jewish American.. (Horowitz and Feder, also great conservative Jewish intellects.) Course, I'm a racist, sexist, homophobe if you listen to some people..</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Thanks for sharing the article, Chas. </font> <font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">I enjoyed it...</font></div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">--Ed</font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px;
padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="chasuk@gmail.com" href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">Chasuk</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="ecooper@turbonet.com" href="mailto:ecooper@turbonet.com">Ed</a>
</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:25 PM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> David Horowitz [A gift to Ed] Was: A sad day in IDAHO</div> <div><br></div>On 5/17/06, Ed <<a href="mailto:ecooper@turbonet.com">ecooper@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Next, a well-written article, by a Jewish intellect,
many will find<br>> interesting<br><br>> HOMOSEXUALS HAVE EASTER BUNNY IN THEIR SIGHTS<br><br>Thank you, Ed. In the spirit of reciprocity, I'll share an article<br>written by your hero, David Horowitz. Actually, I think everyone<br>should read this article. I found it informative, and Horowitz is<br>definitely not my hero.<br><br><a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7910">http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7910</a><br><br>Pride Before a Fall<br><br>In four Gospels - including the Sermon on the Mount - Jesus neglected<br>to mention the subject of homosexuality. But that hasn't stopped a<br>handful of self-appointed leaders of the so-called Religious Right<br>from deciding that it is an issue worth the presidency of the United<br>States. In what the Washington Times described as a "stormy session"<br>last week, the Rev. Lou Sheldon, Paul Weyrich, Gary
Bauer and eight<br>other "social conservatives" read the riot act to RNC chairman Marc<br>Racicot for meeting with the "Human Rights Campaign," a group<br>promoting legal protections for homosexuals. This indiscretion, they<br>said, "could put Bush's entire re-election campaign in jeopardy."<br><br>According to the Times' report by Ralph Hallow, the RNC chairman<br>defended himself by saying, "You people don't want me to meet with<br>other folks, but I meet with anybody and everybody." To this Gary<br>Bauer retorted, "That can't be true because you surely would not meet<br>with the leaders of the Ku Klux Klan."<br><br>Nice analogy Gary. Way to love thy neighbor.<br><br>This demand to quarantine a political enemy might have had more<br>credibility if the target the Campaign for Human Rights -- were<br>busily burning crosses on social conservatives' lawns. But they<br>aren't. Moreover, the fact that it is, after all,
crosses the Ku Klux<br>Klan burns, might suggest a little more humility on the part of<br>Christians addressing these issues. Just before the launching of the<br>2000 presidential campaign, George Bush himself was asked about<br>similarly mean-spirited Republican attacks. His response was that<br>politicians like him weren't elected to pontificate about other<br>people's morals and that his own faith admonished him to take the beam<br>out of his own eye before obsessing over the mote in someone else's.<br><br>The real issue here is tolerance of differences in a pluralistic<br>society. Tolerance is different from approval, but it is also<br>different from stigmatizing and shunning those with whom we disagree.<br><br>I say this as someone who is well aware that Christians are themselves<br>a persecuted community in liberal America, and as one who has stood up<br>for the rights of Christians like Paul Weyrich and Gary Bauer
to have<br>their views, even when I have not agreed with some of their agendas.<br>Not long ago, I went out on a public limb to defend Paul Weyrich when<br>he was under attack by the Washington Post and other predictable<br>sources for a remark he had made that was (reasonably) construed as<br>anti-Semitic. I defended Weyrich because I have known him to be a<br>decent man without malice towards Jews and I did not want to see him<br>condemned for a careless remark. I defended him in order to protest<br>the way in which we have become a less tolerant and more mean-spirited<br>culture than we were.<br><br>I have this to say to Paul: A delegation to the chairman of the RNC to<br>demand that he have no dialogue with the members of an organization<br>for human rights is itself intolerant, and serves neither your ends<br>nor ours. You told Racicot, "if the perception is out there that the<br>party has accepted the homosexual
agenda, the leaders of the<br>pro-family community will be unable to help turn out the pro-family<br>voters. It won't matter what we say; people will leave in droves."<br><br>This is disingenuous, since you are a community leader and share the<br>attitude you describe. In other words, what you are really saying is<br>that if the mere perception is that the Republican Party has accepted<br>the "homosexual agenda," you will tell your followers to defect with<br>the disastrous consequences that may follow. As a fellow conservative,<br>I do not understand how in good conscience you can do this. Are you<br>prepared to have President Howard Dean or President John Kerry preside<br>over our nation's security? Do you think a liberal in the White House<br>is going to advance the agendas of social conservatives? What can you<br>be thinking?<br><br>In the second place, the very term "homosexual agenda," is an<br>expression of
intolerance as well. Since when do all homosexuals think<br>alike? In fact, thirty percent of the gay population voted Republican<br>in the last presidential election. This is a greater percentage than<br>blacks, Hispanics or Jews. Were these homosexuals simply deluded into<br>thinking that George Bush shared their agendas? Or do they perhaps<br>have agendas that are as complex, diverse and separable from their<br>sexuality as women, gun owners or Christians, for that matter?<br><br>In your confusion on these matters, you have fallen into the trap set<br>for you by your enemies on the left. It is the left that insists its<br>radical agendas are the agendas of blacks and women and gays. Are you<br>ready to make this concession -- that the left speaks for these<br>groups, for minorities and "the oppressed?" Isn't it the heart of the<br>conservative argument that liberalism (or, as I would call it,<br>leftism) is bad
doctrine for all humanity, not just white Christian<br>males?<br><br>If the President's party or conservatism itself -- is to prevail in<br>the political wars, it must address the concerns of all Americans and<br>seek to win their hearts and minds. It is conservative values that<br>forge our community and create our coalition, and neither you nor<br>anyone else has - or should have - a monopoly in determining what<br>those values are.</blockquote>_____________________________________________________<br> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> http://www.fsr.net <br> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<br></blockquote><br><p>
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