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<DIV>Nick,</DIV>
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<DIV>You are really in a snit aren't you? Dismissing conservatives on this
list as illogical morons hardly demonstrates tolerance or a respect for a
diversity of political views. Narrow mindedness ill becomes you
Nick.</DIV>
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<DIV>While I share your concern for prison conditions, specifically the state
sponsored and condoned daily rape of weaker prisoners, I am unconvinced by your
statistic regarding the number of "innocents" on death row. Were you
speaking to me I would ask you where you got that dubious number (178).</DIV>
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<DIV>Regarding Phil, you really need to stop obsessing. The man is gone
but it is comforting to know he would have disagreed with you once again.
He must have been a perceptive fellow.</DIV>
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<DIV>Gratuitous assertion #1) The death penalty does not deter violent
crime. You are just stuck on stupid, Nick. That's an absurd
statement on its face. Further, most "studies" purporting to demonstrate
that are drawn from the prison population. Those who were less likely to
be deterred by their nature. What of the far vaster number of those who
WERE deterred? The large number of law abiding citizens who, were it not
illegal, would seriously consider personally executing the local child rapist or
sociopathic repeat offender? This is the gaping flaw in your logic that
you do not recognize and will never acknowledge.</DIV>
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<DIV>#2) Executing murderers does not assuage the thirst for vengeance
felt by family members. Again those anonymous studies.......
Regardless of weather capital punishment results in such feeling or not,
families still have a moral right to see their loved one's killer
dispatched.</DIV>
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<DIV>#3) Have to agree with you on this one. Being visited in prison
on a daily basis by you would no doubt serve as a greater deterrent than
execution. As far as everyone having a conscience goes, obviously your
studies did not include an examination of the phenomenon of sociopathy.</DIV>
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<DIV>#4) Tragically wrong again. The difference between a fetus
under 25 weeks of life and a death row inmate is that the fetus is innocent and
the prisoner is guilty. Simple distinction. How is it that it has
escaped you?</DIV>
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<DIV>And you call US incoherent!</DIV>
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<DIV>Have a logical day, --Tony</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>