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<DIV><FONT size=4>Tom quotes:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">"As I read the New Testament, I don't see
anywhere in there that killing bad people is a very high calling for Christians.
I see an awful lot about redemption and forgiveness."
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#0000ff>-- James W.L. Park,
former execution officer, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">San
Quentin</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">California</st1:State></st1:place></FONT>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Isn't it fascinating (especially for non-believers like
myself) how some of those that strongly, while evincing such prideful
superiority, parade themselves as Christians (including but not limited to
the prisoners of the <FONT size=6><FONT face="Olde English">Wilson &
Family's Cult & <FONT color=#00bb88><STRONG>Cash
Machine</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT>) like to justify their cruelty,
selfishness, and abject lack of humility by quoting the old testament
instead of the Gospels of Christ.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To such: <FONT color=#ff0000
size=7><STRONG>Hello!</STRONG></FONT> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Wasn't Christ trying to bring humankind a new way, one in
rebellion to the harsh, barbaric, inconsistent application of the old laws found
in the <EM>Old Testament</EM>? Where does Christ speak of punishment, and
what does he say? Hint: See below. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>If you think you are a Christian, t</FONT><FONT size=4>ake
your choice: Apply the laws of the <EM>Old Testament</EM> and the
penal proscriptions thereof and know that by the clear words of Christ you have
a heretical, non-Christian belief, or be a Christian and condemn the
"eye for an eye" moral imperative as Christ does.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>[Or you can be a non-believer and see capital punishment as a
much more complex issue than following unverifiable superstition. However,
If you allege yourself to be a Christian, then Christ's word's
on capital punishment (and all other moral subjects) is binding,
definitive, and all-inclusive. <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>It would
be unchristian/heretical for a true Christian to consider relevant or
persuasive other than the words of Christ any other argument including
the many secular arguments on this
subject.</FONT></STRONG>]</FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>PS. I find it truly interesting that many of those who purport to be
Christians on this forum (and elsewhere) seem to be <FONT color=#ff0000
size=5><STRONG>utterly unable</STRONG></FONT> to follow the simple dictum
of Christ cited below: <SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><STRONG>Love your
enemies,</STRONG></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">bless those cursing
you, do good to those hating you, and pray for <FONT color=#000000>[not for
yourselves, but]</FONT> those accusing you falsely, and persecuting
you...</SPAN></B></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For the reading challenged: The second quote cited below is in
complete contravention to the stone to death for adultery proscriptions of the
<EM>Old Testament</EM>. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>____________________________________________________________________________</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><?xml:namespace prefix =
st1 ns = "qv9" /><st1:bcv_smarttag w:st="on"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Matthew
5:38</SPAN></B></st1:bcv_smarttag><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> – 48</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Young's Literal Translation of the
Bible</I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p>[The alleged words of Christ
<STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>are in red</FONT></STRONG>.]</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">38<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘Ye heard that it was said: Eye for
eye, and tooth for tooth;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">39<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>but I—I say to you, </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">not to resist the
evil</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">,
but whoever shall slap thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the
other;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">40<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and whoever is willing to take thee
to law, and thy coat to take—suffer to him also the cloak.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">41<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘And whoever shall impress thee one
mile, go with him two,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">42<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>to him who is asking of thee be
giving, and him who is willing to borrow from thee thou mayest not turn
away.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">43<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘Ye heard that it was said: Thou
shalt love thy neighbour, and shalt hate thine enemy;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">44<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>but I—I say to you,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Love your
enemies,</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">bless those cursing
you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and
persecuting you,</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">45<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>that ye may be sons of your Father
in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He
doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">46<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘For, if ye may love those loving
you, what reward have ye? do not also the tax-gatherers the
same?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">47<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and if ye may salute your brethren
only, what do ye abundant? do not also the tax-gatherers
so?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">48<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">ye shall therefore be
perfect, as your Father who is in the </SPAN></B><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">heavens is
perfect</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>__________________________________________________________</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><?xml:namespace prefix =
st1 ns = "QV10" /><st1:bcv_smarttag w:st="on"><?xml:namespace prefix = st2 ns =
"qv9" /><st2:bcv_smarttag w:st="on"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">John
8</SPAN></B></st2:bcv_smarttag></st1:bcv_smarttag><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Young's Literal Translation of the
Bible</I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">1<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>And at dawn he came
again to the temple,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">2<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and all the people were
coming unto him, and having sat down, he was teaching
them;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">3<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and the scribes and the
Pharisees bring unto him a woman having been taken in adultery, and having set
her in the midst,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">4<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>they say to him,
‘Teacher, this woman was taken in the very crime—committing
adultery,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">5<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and in the law, Moses
did command us that such be stoned; thou, therefore, what dost thou
say?’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">6<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and this they said,
trying him, that they might have to accuse him.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And Jesus, having stooped down, with the
finger he was writing on the ground,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">7<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and when they continued
asking him, having bent himself back, he said unto them, ‘</SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The sinless of you—let
him first cast the stone at her</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">;’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">8<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and again having
stooped down, he was writing on the ground,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">9<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and they having heard,
and by the conscience being convicted, were going forth one by one, having begun
from the elders—unto the last; and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing
in the midst.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">10<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>And Jesus having bent himself back,
and having seen no one but the woman, said to her, ‘<SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Woman, where are those—thine accusers? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Did no one pass sentence upon
thee</SPAN>?’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">11<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and she said, ‘No one, Sir;’ and
Jesus said to her, ‘</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Neither do I pass
sentence on thee; be going on, and no more sin</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">.’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ToeKneeTime@aol.com
href="mailto:ToeKneeTime@aol.com">ToeKneeTime@aol.com</A> ; <A
title=joekc@adelphia.net href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">joekc@adelphia.net</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Re: Only the short sighted think Death
PenaltyMustBe Aboli...</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Take a look at the
countries listed under “Death Penalty Permitted” at<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html">http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not exactly a stellar
group of moral mentors, huh?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tom
Hansen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Moscow</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, <st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>ToeKneeTime@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:24
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
joekc@adelphia.net<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [Vision2020] Re: Only the short sighted think Death Penalty MustBe
Aboli...</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Joe,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Couple good questions,
here we go.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The logic that the
death penalty does not deter violent crime because <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> has
capital punishment and also has high rates of violent crime, ignores 2 important
points. 1) This country has no realistic program for capital
punishment. Offenders languish on death row for more than a decade in
many cases. Were justice rendered more swiftly, we might see a
corresponding decrease in violent crime. 2) Your argument sounds
awfully close to an ad hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy. Could there not be
other factors at work in this scenario?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regarding my
comparison between lives saved by capital punishment verses the elimination of
an occasional inappropriately applied execution: It is just inconceivable
that the very small number of innocents executed by the state could
possibly come close to the number of future victims of predators spared
execution. It is silly to demand studies in support of the blatantly
obvious.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You misquote me when
you say that I regard it as "OK" that an occasional innocent should be
executed. I of course never said that. I regard it as a tragic but
unavoidable consequence of the administering of justice by fallible
human beings.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With regard to my
Mom's money, I spent it pursuing something far more important than
logic: Booze and broads.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Making Mommy
proud, --Tony<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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