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<body><P ><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" >What <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wayne</st1:place></st1:City> speaks of below has been mystifying me for awhile also. Where has this new (and I might say rather ugly) version of pseudo Christianity spawned from?</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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<P ><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" > I was skipping through the channels and found an evangelical preacher who was ranting and raving about the virtues of accruing wealth for oneself. I listen to other evangelical millionaire ministers spouting off about how these people or those people should be killed. So much of what they say is crap from the Old Testament. How about that goofy group of insane Baptists going around bad mouthing soldier's funerals because of some misdirected hate of same sex relationships? It seems that many ministers of today should return to Bible school. It is enough for any rational parent to keep their children away from organized religion.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P ><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" ><o:p ></o:p></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P>
<P ><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" > I see the mainstream churches teaching: meanness, greed, selfishness, and intolerance instead of kindness, love, generosity, humility and tolerance. </FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" >Jesus was supposed to have brought the Good Word to us, why isn't the church spreading that word any more? Christianity is losing Christ or at least a great number of people posing as Christians have lost the way. Just like <FONT class="" >DW</FONT> trying to convince St Peter to let him bring his hoarded booty into heaven, all who call themselves Christians but don't behave as such will have to pay the piper eventually.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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<P ><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" >I don't really give a hoot about what all of the <FONT class="" >crackpots want to call Christianity nowadays, but it is very mystifying to me where this has evolved from. What happened to the teachings of Christ?</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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<P ><FONT size=3 ><FONT color=#000000 ><FONT face="Times New Roman" >James <o:p ></o:p></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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From: deco@moscow.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Only the short sighted think Death PenaltyMustBe Aboli...<BR>Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 13:04:06 -0700<BR><BR>
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<DIV ><FONT size=4 >Tom quotes:</FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy" >"As I read the New Testament, I don't see anywhere in there that killing bad people is a very high calling for Christians. I see an awful lot about redemption and forgiveness." </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy" ><FONT color=#0000ff >-- James <FONT class="">W.L.</FONT> Park, former execution officer, San Quentin, California</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV ><FONT size=4 >Isn't it fascinating (especially for non-believers like myself) how some of those that strongly, while evincing such prideful superiority, parade themselves as Christians (including but not limited to the prisoners of the <FONT size=6 ><FONT face="Olde English" >Wilson & Family's Cult & <FONT color=#00bb88 ><STRONG >Cash Machine</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT>) like to justify their cruelty, selfishness, and abject lack of humility by quoting the old testament instead of the Gospels of Christ.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV ><FONT size=4 >To such: <FONT color=#ff0000 size=7 ><STRONG >Hello!</STRONG></FONT> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV ><FONT size=4 >Wasn't Christ trying to bring humankind a new way, one in rebellion to the harsh, barbaric, inconsistent application of the old laws found in the <EM >Old Testament</EM>? Where does Christ speak of punishment, and what does he say? Hint: See below. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV ><FONT size=4 >If you think you are a Christian, t</FONT><FONT size=4 >ake your choice: Apply the laws of the <EM >Old Testament</EM> and the penal proscriptions thereof and know that by the clear words of Christ you have a heretical, non-Christian belief, or be a Christian and condemn the "eye for an eye" moral imperative as Christ does.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV ><FONT size=4 >[Or you can be a non-believer and see capital punishment as a much more complex issue than following unverifiable superstition. However, If you allege yourself to be a Christian, then Christ's word's on capital punishment (and all other moral subjects) is binding, definitive, and all-inclusive. <STRONG ><FONT color=#ff0000 >It would be unchristian/heretical for a true Christian to consider relevant or persuasive other than the words of Christ any other argument including the many secular arguments on this subject.</FONT></STRONG>]</FONT></DIV><FONT size=4 >
<DIV ><BR >Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)</DIV>
<DIV ><A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" >deco@moscow.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV >PS. I find it truly interesting that many of those who purport to be Christians on this forum (and elsewhere) seem to be <FONT color=#ff0000 size=5 ><STRONG >utterly unable</STRONG></FONT> to follow the simple dictum of Christ cited below: <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" ><STRONG >Love your enemies,</STRONG></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for <FONT color=#000000 >[not for yourselves, but]</FONT> those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you...</SPAN></B></DIV>
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<DIV >For the reading challenged: The second quote cited below is in complete contravention to the stone to death for adultery proscriptions of the <EM >Old Testament</EM>. </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >Matthew 5:38</SPAN></B><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > – 48</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" ><SPAN > </SPAN><I >Young's Literal Translation of the Bible</I></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" ></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >[The alleged words of Christ <STRONG ><FONT color=#ff0000 >are in red</FONT></STRONG>.]</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >38<SPAN > </SPAN>‘Ye heard that it was said: Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth;</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >39<SPAN > </SPAN>but I—I say to you, </SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >not to resist the evil</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >, but whoever shall slap thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other;</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >40<SPAN > </SPAN>and whoever is willing to take thee to law, and thy coat to take—suffer to him also the cloak.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >41<SPAN > </SPAN>‘And whoever shall impress thee one mile, go with him two,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >42<SPAN > </SPAN>to him who is asking of thee be giving, and him who is willing to borrow from thee thou mayest not turn away.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >43<SPAN > </SPAN>‘Ye heard that it was said: Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and shalt hate thine enemy;</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >44<SPAN > </SPAN>but I—I say to you,</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >Love your enemies,</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" ></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >45<SPAN > </SPAN>that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >46<SPAN > </SPAN>‘For, if ye may love those loving you, what reward have ye? do not also the tax-gatherers the same?</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >47<SPAN > </SPAN>and if ye may salute your brethren only, what do ye abundant? do not also the tax-gatherers so?</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >48<SPAN > </SPAN></SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father who is in the </SPAN></B><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >heavens is perfect</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >John 8</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" ><SPAN > </SPAN><I >Young's Literal Translation of the Bible</I></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >1<SPAN > </SPAN>And at dawn he came again to the temple,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >2<SPAN > </SPAN>and all the people were coming unto him, and having sat down, he was teaching them;</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >3<SPAN > </SPAN>and the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto him a woman having been taken in adultery, and having set her in the midst,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >4<SPAN > </SPAN>they say to him, ‘Teacher, this woman was taken in the very crime—committing adultery,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >5<SPAN > </SPAN>and in the law, Moses did command us that such be stoned; thou, therefore, what dost thou say?’</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >6<SPAN > </SPAN>and this they said, trying him, that they might have to accuse him.<SPAN > </SPAN>And Jesus, having stooped down, with the finger he was writing on the ground,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >7<SPAN > </SPAN>and when they continued asking him, having bent himself back, he said unto them, ‘</SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >The sinless of you—let him first cast the stone at her</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >;’</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >8<SPAN > </SPAN>and again having stooped down, he was writing on the ground,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >9<SPAN > </SPAN>and they having heard, and by the conscience being convicted, were going forth one by one, having begun from the elders—unto the last; and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >10<SPAN > </SPAN>And Jesus having bent himself back, and having seen no one but the woman, said to her, ‘<SPAN style="COLOR: red" >Woman, where are those—thine accusers? <SPAN > </SPAN>Did no one pass sentence upon thee</SPAN>?’</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in" ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >11<SPAN > </SPAN>and she said, ‘No one, Sir;’ and Jesus said to her, ‘</SPAN><B ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >Neither do I pass sentence on thee; be going on, and no more sin</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" >.’</SPAN></P>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black" ><B >From:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" >Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV ><B >To:</B> <A title=ToeKneeTime@aol.com href="mailto:ToeKneeTime@aol.com" >ToeKneeTime@aol.com</A> ; <A title=joekc@adelphia.net href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net" >joekc@adelphia.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV ><B >Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" >vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV ><B >Sent:</B> Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV ><B >Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Re: Only the short sighted think Death PenaltyMustBe Aboli...</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >Take a look at the countries listed under “Death Penalty Permitted” at</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" ><A href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html" target=_blank >http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html</A></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >Not exactly a stellar group of moral mentors, huh?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >Tom Hansen</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >Couple good questions, here we go.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >The logic that the death penalty does not deter violent crime because America has capital punishment and also has high rates of violent crime, ignores 2 important points. 1) This country has no realistic program for capital punishment. Offenders languish on death row for more than a decade in many cases. Were justice rendered more swiftly, we might see a corresponding decrease in violent crime. 2) Your argument sounds awfully close to an ad hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy. Could there not be other factors at work in this scenario?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >Regarding my comparison between lives saved by capital punishment verses the elimination of an occasional inappropriately applied execution: It is just inconceivable that the very small number of innocents executed by the state could possibly come close to the number of future victims of predators spared execution. It is silly to demand studies in support of the blatantly obvious.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >You misquote me when you say that I regard it as "OK" that an occasional innocent should be executed. I of course never said that. I regard it as a tragic but unavoidable consequence of the administering of justice by fallible human beings.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal ><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2 ><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" >With regard to my Mom's money, I spent it pursuing something far more important than logic: Booze and broads.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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