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<div>Chris,</div>
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<div>Reaching carrying capacity is scary stuff.</div>
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<div>m.</div>
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<div>At 9:09 AM -0800 4/26/06, Chris Storhok wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1"
color="#000080">Mark,</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1"
color="#000080"> What I find interesting is that yesterday seven
bills were introduced in Congress that address the same water concerns
that Moscow has. Our nation's over consumptive ways have
caught up with us.</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1"
color="#000080"> </font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1"
color="#000080">Chris</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1"
color="#000080"> </font></blockquote>
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<hr size="2"></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1"><b>From:</b>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<b> On Behalf Of</b> Mark
Solomon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Reynolds; Art Deco; Vision 2020<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Re: [Vision2020] Water: What is
missing</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>National average water use for a family
of 4 is @ 78 gallons per person per day. Same with customary but not
extraordinary conservation measures taken is 54 gallons per person per
day. I remember the numbers but not the cite right now.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Wayne hit it on the head: it takes
political leadership to address the issue. Aaron Ament, as the
Council's representative to PBAC, has taken a very active interest in
the issue. I look forward to his leadership at the City level on this
issue.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Mark</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>At 9:16 AM -0700 4/26/06, James Reynolds
wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I believe that we should do whatever
necessary to increase our water supply. When the Palouse was settled
and made into a wheat producing landscape many small ponds, wetlands
and such were drained off. These drained areas were perhaps the
recharge engines for our upper aquifer. How about reclaiming some
(many) of these areas for this? Federal, State, maybe even county
technical asistence (maybe some monetary) would be available to
start such a program and I expect our ever-growing urban farmer
population on their 40 acre tracts would be interested in having
a pond etc..<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Also I remember hearing about an artesian
well on Doc. Lucas's (Bless him) property south of moscow. That
site and potentially others might be developed to provide
catch/holding basins (his is in bedrock I think) for water that
might be sold to the city or on a smaller scale sold to neighbors for
irrigation.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>The problem with the emphasis on
conservation is that it really does impact the quality of life for
many who looked forward to gardening their home lot and making it
a masterpiece of tranquility. contrary to some on the list, I see no
evil in wanting your grounds to be a preserve in which to sooth
ones soul. I also don't think we are doing anything about
increasing the water available to keep Moscow the beautiful green
place it is. We haven't even begun to work on the problem and already
it seems the consensus is to relegate Latah to a desert
environment. That is not what Latah county is by any measure, we just
have not worked hard enough in making it remain the paradise that
it is.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Another thing...is there available a
chart/graph that shows how much water a family should use to be
considered unhoglike? It would be interesting to know how much water
we should expect to use for the things we do.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>My toilets work fine and I surely don't
want to mess with something that critical when they are good now.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>James <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>
<hr size="2"></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>> From: deco@moscow.com<br>
> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water: What is missing<br>
> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:00:50 -0700<br>
><br>
>
Thank you Nils for the comment which<span
></span
> is really at the heart of the<span
></span> matter:<br>
><br>
>
"If the assertion in #1 [A large<span
></span
> enough segment of the Moscow electora<span
></span>te <br>
>
willing to be educated on this issue.<span
></span
> There are many people who belie<span
></span>ve <br>
>
that the water issue is not that i<span
></span
>mportant at this time.] is true, many <br
>
>
people don't believe its an issue, then<span
></span
> I doubt the rest of the items<span
></span> can <br>
> follow."<br>
><br>
>
Mark Solomon and Bill and Diane French<span
></span> of the Palouse Water Conservation <br
>
>
Network (PWCN) have devoted substantial amou<span
></span>nts of time and effort <br>
>
attempting to educate us about the aqui<span
></span>fer and water <br>
> usage/replenishment/conservation.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>><br>
>
[For example, a recent post by Mark<span
></span> Solomon (reposted below) about the <br
>
>
amount of water usage need to support<span
></span
> the proposed Super WalMart should be<span
></span> a <br>
> real eye opener.]<br>
><br>
>
Although PBAC (Palouse Basin Aquifer Committ<span
></span>ee) continues important work on <br>
>
the subject, they and their former lead<span
></span
>er Larry Kirkland, lost a lot of <br
>
>
credibility and in my opinion did a<span
></span
> great deal of damage to the wate<span
></span>r <br>
>
conservation effort by Kirkland's endorsement<span
></span> of the Naylor Farms proposal <br
>
>
and by their tepid response to the <span
></span
>WSU golf course proposal [and now a<span
></span> plan <br>
> becoming reality.]<br>
><br>
>
Besides the efforts of Solomon and the<span
></span> Frenches, we need political leaders<br
>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>>
who not only talk the game by give<span
></span> cheer-leader type speeches on the <br
>
>
subject, but ones who will dig in <span
></span
>to come up with, finance, and lead<span
></span> a <br>
>
multi-prong program carefully designed to ed<span
></span>ucate the electorate and to <br>
>
motivate them enough to be willing to<span
></span
> conserve. This is not a small<span
></span> task as <br>
>
you can see by the responses on th<span
></span>is forum.<br>
><br>
>
Mark's water budget concept is an excel<span
></span>lent proposal. It needs courageous, <br
>
>
relentless political support. That support<span
></span
> will be hard to come by without <br
>
>
a majority of the electorate willing to<span
></span> make some major changes/sacrifices <br
>
>
both little and big in their water <span
></span
>consumption habits. That's why a lot<span
></span> of <br>
>
education, much of it repetitive but ta<span
></span>ntalizingly packaged in a number of <br
>
>
different, effective ways, needs to be <span
></span>done and done well.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Wayne A. Fox<br>
> 1009 Karen Lane<br>
> PO Box 9421<br>
> Moscow, ID 83843<br>
><br>
> (208) 882-7975<br>
> waf@moscow.com<br>
><br>
><br>
>
_____________________________________________________________________<span
></span>_____________<br>
>
To add another piece to the water <span
></span
>thread, there is the issue of how<span
></span> we <br>
>
support growth and development in Moscow<span
></span
> when we are at or beyond the <br
>
>
ability of our aquifers to supply water<span
></span> to the city.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: the deep Grande Ronde aquifer has<span
></span
> no identified recharge mechanism and <br
>
> continues to fall 1-2'/year.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: the upper Wanapum aquifer recharges<span
></span> seasonally (winter runoff) through <br
>
>
mechanisms not quite identified (the ongoing<span
></span> Latah County Hydrogeological <br>
>
Characterization Project is designed to answ<span
></span>er that question) but the <br>
>
current rate of withdrawal from the Wan<span
></span>apum exceeds the recharge. Historical <br
>
>
pumping records indicate that Wanapum <span
></span>well levels may drop precipitously <br
>
> within 15 years.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: the City of Moscow is signatory<span
></span
> to the regional Palouse Basin Aquifer <br
>
>
Agreement which requires each pumping entity<span
></span> (Moscow, Pullman, UI, WSU) to <br
>
>
limit increases in pumping to 1% annual<span
></span
>ly and to not exceed a total cap<span
></span> of <br>
>
125% of the total volume pumped as <span
></span
>an average of the years 1982-1987 for<span
></span> a <br>
>
cap of 875 million gallons/year (MGY). <span
></span>It was hoped that limiting pumping <br
>
>
increases would allow the aquifer levels<span
></span> to stabilize. They were wrong.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: From 1994 to 2003, Moscow exceede<span
></span
>d its 1% annual growth limit and <span
></span>from <br>
> 1998-2003 its 875 mgy cap.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: After Moscow area conservation and<span
></span
> civic groups filed a petition with <br
>
>
the State asking for designation of Mos<span
></span>cow area aquifers as Critical <br>
>
Groundwater Management Areas and Groundwater <span
></span>Management Areas the City <br>
>
implemented mandatory landscape irrigation measur<span
></span>es that reduced the amount <br>
>
of water pumped by the City from 9<span
></span
>19 MGY in 2003 to 819 MGY in<span
></span> 2005. <br>
>
(Bravo!) 2005 was the first year since<span
></span
> the city signed the PBAC agreement <br
>
>
that it was in compliance with the <span
></span>agreement.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: Moscow City wells (with the excep<span
></span
>tion of Wells 6&8 which have had <br
>
>
their pumping significantly decreased due to<span
></span> internal piping issues) <br>
>
continue to have declining water levels <span
></span>despite the conservation efforts of <br
>
>
people and businesses across the city.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Fact: the SuperWalmart developer, on page<span
></span
> 6 of his application for a rezon<span
></span>e <br>
>
of the Thompson property across from th<span
></span>e cemetery, forecasts full build out <br
>
>
at 1.5 million square foot of commercia<span
></span
>l space. The applicant predicts water <br
>
>
useage based on full build out at <span
></span
>over 62 MGY. Full build out woul<span
></span>d <br>
>
increase water pumped by 7.6% above cur<span
></span
>rent levels violating the 1% annual </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>>
increase. Full build out will also caus<span
></span
>e the City to exceed its absolute<span
></span> cap <br>
> of 875 mgy.<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Question: Is this how we want to u<span
></span
>se the water we have conserved? Do<span
></span> we want <br>
>
to give all our water to Walmart?<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Answer: The City Council is holding a<span
></span
> public hearing on Walmart's proposed <br
>
>
rezone 5/1, 7:00 pm , Council Chambers<span
></span
> (unless they move it to someplace <br
>
>
where all the people who are likely<span
></span
> to attend can actually fit in th<span
></span>e <br>
> room...)<br>
><br>
><br>
> Mark Solomon<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
>
From: "Nils Peterson" <nils_peterson@wsu.<span
></span>edu><br>
> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:13 PM<br
>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>>
Subject: [Vision2020] Water: What is missing<br
>
><br>
><br>
>
> This is a good list, and some<span
></span
> clear challenges. If the assertion in<span
></span> #1 is<br>
>
> true, many people don't believe it<span
></span
>s an issue, then I doubt the rest<span
></span> of the<br>
> > items can follow.<br>
> ><br>
>
> Is it possible that many think<span
></span
> a declining aquifer might be a p<span
></span>roblem, but<br>
>
> they don't think they can affect<span
></span
> a solution, or that a solution m<span
></span>ight be<br>
>
> financially costly to them, or tha<span
></span
>t a solution might have negative impac<span
></span>ts<br>
>
> on the city (read, no growth).<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Art Deco writes:<br>
> >> Nils asks:<br>
> >><br>
>
>> "What is missing to put t<span
></span>his into action?"<br>
> >><br>
>
>> Among other things that may or<span
></span
> may not be missing but whose exi<span
></span>stence is<br>
> >> vital:<br>
> >><br>
>
>> 1. A large enough <span
></span
>segment of the Moscow electorate willing<span
></span> to be <br>
> >> educated<br>
>
>> on this issue. There are <span
></span
>many people who believe that the water<span
></span> issue is<br>
>
>> not that important at this tim<span
></span>e.<br>
> >><br>
>
>> 2. Enough informed, wi<span
></span
>lling and able persons to do the <span
></span>one-on-one<br>
>
>> education that it would probably<span
></span
> take; the funds that it would ta<span
></span>ke to<br>
>
>> prepare the materials for and <span
></span>to execute the education program.<br>
> >><br>
>
>> 3. A majority on <span
></span
>the Moscow City Council with enough co<span
></span>urage and <br>
> >> stamina<br>
>
>> to lead, to carefully plan, an<span
></span>d to enact the program.<br>
> >><br>
>
>> 4. A competent enough<span
></span
> city manager and staff to successfull<span
></span>y implement<br>
> >> the program.<br>
> >><br>
> >> W.<br>
> ><br>
>
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