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<body><P >I never have liked the smell of dog poop and have spoken excitably about it at times. This does not mean if I step in some I am not qualified to want to get it off from my shoe. It is still dog poop and if it's on my shoe I will scrape it off.</P>
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<P>> From: jampot@adelphia.net<BR>> To: kjajmix1@msn.com; k5grench@hotmail.com; joekc@adelphia.net<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Same Old Story (was Persecution By Any OtherName)<BR>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:51:41 -0700<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> Ms. Mix, I could not agree with you more. It is very clear to me that Mr. <BR>> Ament publicly and vehemently disagrees with NSA's beliefs and practices. <BR>> Unfortunately, as a council person, how he feels about a groups beliefs and <BR>> practices is not supposed to be part of the decision making process. I <BR>> thought that a rational and unbiased look at the issues in any given matter <BR>> was the ideal.<BR>> <BR>> gc<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1@msn.com><BR>> To: <k5grench@hotmail.com>; <joekc@adelphia.net>; <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>> Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:49 AM<BR>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Same Old Story (was Persecution By Any <BR>> OtherName)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Your classes in logic and rhetoric seem to have skipped the part about <BR>> > cohesiveness of argument and consistency of reason, Gabe.<BR>> ><BR>> > People align themselves with Christ Church and NSA willingly, choosing to <BR>> > embrace various doctrines and beliefs and eagerly immersing themselves, as <BR>> > is their right, in a particular culture that has as its only defining <BR>> > characteristic adherence to those same beliefs and acquiescence to <BR>> > policies springing from them. Again, this is well within their rights; it <BR>> > is equally within Aaron's rights to disagree publicly and vehemently with <BR>> > those beliefs and practices.<BR>> ><BR>> > This is not, as you might presume, an argument about being "born that <BR>> > way." That's not relevant. What is relevant is that no one is Black, <BR>> > Jewish, or homosexual because of an institution or fellowship they've <BR>> > chosen to align themselves with. I shudder to think that you might be <BR>> > arguing that one's status as a student at NSA is somehow an identifier of <BR>> > their personhood in the same way sexuality, race, or religion is. I mean, <BR>> > it's a neat school and all, but not even the sweater vests and khakis and <BR>> > black disputatio robes are inherent to the wearer's personhood, dapper as <BR>> > they may be.<BR>> ><BR>> > keely<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > From: "Gabriel Rench" <k5grench@hotmail.com><BR>> > To: <joekc@adelphia.net>, "'g. crabtree'" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>> > CC: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Same Old Story (was Persecution By Any <BR>> > OtherName)<BR>> > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:40:47 -0700<BR>> ><BR>> > Joe,<BR>> ><BR>> > What if Ament expressed the same criticisms about blacks, homosexuals,or<BR>> > jews?....Jews are jewdroids...homosexuals are homodroids...blacks are<BR>> > bladroids... Would you want Aments biased subjectivity participate in the<BR>> > same sort of decisions? Cheers! Gabe<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> > On Behalf Of joekc@adelphia.net<BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:29 AM<BR>> > To: g. crabtree<BR>> > Cc: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>> > Subject: [Vision2020] The Same Old Story (was Persecution By Any Other <BR>> > Name)<BR>> ><BR>> > Is every statement that you and your friends disagree with "irrational"? <BR>> > Is<BR>> > this an illustration of your level of tolerance, Gary?<BR>> ><BR>> > Ament voiced his criticisms on this topic prior to the election and, if my<BR>> > memory serves me well, he gained more votes than ANY other candidate in <BR>> > the<BR>> > process. Let's stand by the will of the people -- who voted for Ament in<BR>> > part because of his well-known views on this subject -- whether or not we<BR>> > agree with their opinions. This is how a democracy functions. Not by <BR>> > trying<BR>> > to silence critics by any means necessary.<BR>> ><BR>> > --<BR>> > Joe Campbell<BR>> ><BR>> > ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > =============<BR>> > I'm not sure what Doug you are referring to in your post but, when it come<BR>> > to irrational quotes, let's start with his proclaiming NSA as an <BR>> > "education<BR>> > free zone." I don't care how rabidly partisan you are on this topic, you<BR>> > simply can not say that the students at Moscow's finest downtown collage <BR>> > are<BR>> > not learning anything. If nothing else they're learning that the fair<BR>> > minded, tolerant, liberal elite in our town, really aren't. (and to be <BR>> > sure<BR>> > they are learning quite a bit more then that)<BR>> ><BR>> > gc<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: <joekc@adelphia.net><BR>> > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>> > Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen"<BR>> > <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:29 AM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Persecution By Any Other Name<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > This is just plain false. There is nothing in Doug's quotations of Ament <BR>> > to<BR>> > support this. What is irrational about Ament's comments?<BR>> ><BR>> > This is all just another example of some folks trying to get things done<BR>> > through something other than the regular channels, a way of doing things<BR>> > that got folks like Ament worked up in the first place.<BR>> ><BR>> > --<BR>> > Joe Campbell<BR>> ><BR>> > ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > =============<BR>> > When you have a city council member make as many disparaging remarks about<BR>> > NSA as citizen Ament has I think that you can safely take the matter out <BR>> > of<BR>> > the realm of "paranoia" and move it firmly into the real, live problem<BR>> > column. Getting ones ducks in a row before the council hears the CUP <BR>> > appeal<BR>> > seems prudent. Ament clearly has an irrational dislike for "androids."<BR>> ><BR>> > gc<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> > To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:47 AM<BR>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Persecution By Any Other Name<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > Greetings Visionaires -<BR>> > ><BR>> > > It seems that NSA attorney Gregory Dickison has requested public records<BR>> > > concerning virtually ANYBODY's comments to Councilperson Aaron Ament<BR>> > about<BR>> > > almost anything.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Details concerning this public records request were aired on KRFP this<BR>> > > morning.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > For your listening pleasure:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Dickison_RecReq.mp3<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Footnote to NSA "management": Paranoia self-destroya<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tom Hansen<BR>> > > Just Another Intolerista Liberal Elitista Diversity-Cleansing Wack <BR>> > > Nutjob<BR>> > > Loose on the Palouse Doing What Comes Natural<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > *************************************************<BR>> > ><BR>> > > "When people sin, everybody has to pay."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. 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