Mark,<br> <br> Maybe if you got some people behind you with some credibility besides Nils and some prominent liberals, gathered some legitimate data that is not all speculation, and came up with realistic plans, you might get across to more than 22% of the population.<br> <br> Take Care,<br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>Mark Solomon <msolomon@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <style type="text/css"><!-- blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { padding-top: 0 ; padding-bottom: 0 } --></style><title>Re: [Vision2020] Water: Are we the cause?</title> <div>If I hadn't heard otherwise intelligent people asking this question in other venues, I would have just written this question off as another instance of pointless blather, but I have. Two points to answer because there are two separate aquifer systems Moscow relies on: the upper Wanapum basalts and the lower Grande
Ronde basalts.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Wanapum: Used to be Moscow, sole source of water until 1960. Well levels dropped from 1930 (beginning of record keeping) until pumping ceased in 1960 with well levels in essential free fall as the aquifer was drained. It took 30 years to recover, but by 1990 it was recharged. Score one for human caused decline. (Pumping resumed in 1990 and well levels are again falling, following roughly the same curve as the previous pumping period which indicates a dry spell coming for Wanapum wells in about 15-20 years. The Wanapum currently provides @ 30% of Moscow water.)</div> <div><br></div> <div>Grande Ronde: We'll have to prove this one in the negative as the GR has been dropping 1-2' per year ever since we started pumping it and there has never been a period in which it wasn't pumped. Static water levels currently are about 700' below ground level. If the 1-2' drop per year were not human induced, then by the we didn't do
it argument, the water level somewhere between 350-700 years ago the water would have been at the ground level and we could be sipping water with a straw from the ground or watching springs bubble up and flow off down the rivers. As there is absolutely no indication in the geologic or indigenous oral history of this unlikely phenomenon, it probably did not occur. Call it thousands of years and the same argument holds. Score another one for human caused decline.</div> <div><br></div> <div>And let's move on to real issues like "what you gonna do when the well runs dry?"</div> <div><br></div> <div>Mark S.</div> <div><br></div> <div>At 11:20 PM -0700 4/25/06, Donovan Arnold wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="">Nils,<br> <br> How do we even know that we (humans in Moscow) are the cause of the decline in the aquifer? Just because my bathtub water is going down does not mean I am consuming it. Just a thought.<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br> <br>
<i><b>Nils Peterson <nils_peterson@wsu.edu></b></i> wrote:<br> <blockquote>This is a good list, and some clear challenges. If the assertion in #1 is<br> true, many people don't believe its an issue, then I doubt the rest of the<br> items can follow.<br> <br> Is it possible that many think a declining aquifer might be a problem, but<br> they don't think they can affect a solution, or that a solution might be<br> financially costly to them, or that a solution might have negative impacts<br> on the city (read, no growth).<br> <br> <br> Art Deco writes:<br> > Nils asks:<br> ><br> > "What is missing to put this into action?"<br> ><br> > Among other things that may or may not be missing but whose existence is<br> > vital:<br> ><br> > 1. A large enough segment of the Moscow electorate willing to be educated<br> > on this issue. There are many people who believe that the water issue is<br> > not that important at
this time.<br> ><br> > 2. Enough informed, willing and able persons to do the one-on-one<br> > education that it would probably take; the funds that it would take to<br> > prepare the materials for and to execute the education program.<br> ><br> > 3. A majority on the Moscow City Council with enough courage and stamina<br> > to lead, to carefully plan, and to enact the program.<br> ><br> > 4. A competent enough city manager and staff to successfully implement<br> > the program.<br> ><br> > W.<br> <br> _____________________________________________________<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> http://www.fsr.net<br> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br> ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<span></span>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<br> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite=""><br></blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"
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