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<DIV><FONT size=4>Cowboy Dick says:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>"I am not even interested in the
moral issue here, only the use of <FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>God's word
</STRONG></FONT>to justify Joan's moral conscience
pangs."</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Perhaps Cowboy Dick you can give us some valuable instruction
here. How do you know that the Bible is the word of some alleged
God?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV>From: "rvrcowboy" <<A
href="mailto:rvrcowboy@clearwire.net">rvrcowboy@clearwire.net</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: "Vision2020" <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>>J Ford,<BR>> <BR>> Why is it everytime a straight
person questions someone's position on<BR>> homosexuality they get the same
comeback? I.E. Oh, you are so obsessed<BR>> with the gay
lifestyle.... blah, blah, blah...<BR>> <BR>> I would have questioned
Joan's opinion on anything else I thought she was<BR>> totally wrong about
also. If you are going to use the Bible to justify your<BR>> lifestyle
in a public forum you must expect comment. After all, isn't that<BR>>
why she posted it here to begin with?<BR>> <BR>> None of your comparrisons
hold any water in this discussion. You act as<BR>> though no one has
the right to any different opinion, other than a liberal<BR>> one. Do
you believe only homosexuals are allowed to discuss, or question<BR>> the
topic?<BR>> <BR>> Homosexuality is a moral issue. Mistating the
Bible for the purposes of<BR>> justifying ones own guilt is something
different to me. I am not even<BR>> interested in the moral issue here,
only the use of God's word to justify<BR>> Joan's moral conscience
pangs.<BR>> <BR>> There can be no winner in this argument. Opinions
are just that...<BR>> opinions, everyone has one and argument won't change
it. \<BR>> <BR>> Dick<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>
From: "J Ford" <<A
href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</A>><BR>>
To: <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>> Sent:
Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:38 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on
4/22/2006<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> Hey...let's not go there, ok? Not
cool.<BR>>><BR>>> The discussion should stay on the fact that these
guys seem overly<BR>> obsessed<BR>>> with the sexual habits of people
they don't know and don't have much<BR>> regard<BR>>> for. Sorta
like Hitler having no regard for the Jewish or the White<BR>>> Southerners
for the Blacks (in the Slavery Days AS IT TRULY WAS.)<BR>>><BR>>>
J :]<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >From:
Scott Dredge <<A
href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">sdredge@yahoo.com</A>><BR>>> >To:
Vision2020 <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>>>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr on 4/22/2006<BR>>> >Date: Wed,
26 Apr 2006 17:18:45 -0700 (PDT)<BR>>> ><BR>>> >The humorous
thing, rvcowboy, is that you are the one who made the<BR>>> >homosexual
connection to the passage in the first place. Joan didn't.<BR>>
You<BR>>> >went that direction all by yourself. And now you're
saying that only a<BR>>> >sick mind would do such a thing.<BR>>>
><BR>>> >Why are you, and the Dougs, and Dale, and Ed so obsessed
with<BR>> homosexualty?<BR>>> > Even creepier (at least to
me), why are you guys so obsessed with male<BR>>> >gay sex? I
could kinda understand if you were excited about the idea of<BR>>> >two
women getting it on.<BR>>> ><BR>>> >-Scott<BR>>>
><BR>>> >rvrcowboy <<A
href="mailto:rvrcowboy@clearwire.net">rvrcowboy@clearwire.net</A><FONT
size=4><FONT size=3>> wrote:
4 and Jonathan<BR>>> >strippeth himself of the
upper robe which is upon him, and giveth it to<BR>>>
>David, and his long robe, even unto his sword, and unto his bow,
and<BR>> unto<BR>>> >his girdle.<BR>>> ><BR>>>
> Sorry to inform you, Art, but this is simply symbolic of the
fact<BR>>> >Jonathan is conceeding his royal robe, sword, bow and
gear to David in<BR>>> >recognition his father is naming David as
king.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > It has nothing to do with
homosexuality and you would have to have a<BR>>> >sick mind to
believe so.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Dick<BR>>>
><BR>>> > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>> > From: Art
Deco<BR>>> > To: Vision 2020<BR>>>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:03
PM<BR>>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan Opyr
on 4/22/2006<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>>
> Dearest Dick,<BR>>> ><BR>>>
> Here is the actual text from Young's Literal
Translation of the<BR>>> >Bible. Sounds a
little suggestive to me.<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>>
> 1 Samuel 18<BR>>>
><BR>>> > 1
And it cometh to pass, when he finisheth to speak unto<BR>>
Saul,<BR>>> >that the soul of Jonathan hath been
bound to the soul of David, and<BR>>> >Jonathan loveth him as his
own soul.<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
2 And Saul taketh him on
that day, and hath not permitted<BR>> him<BR>>> >to turn back to
the house of his father.<BR>>> ><BR>>>
> 3 And Jonathan
maketh�also David�a covenant, because he<BR>>> >loveth him as his
own soul,<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
4 and Jonathan strippeth himself of the
upper robe which is<BR>>> >upon him,
and giveth it to David, and his long robe, even unto
his<BR>>> >sword, and unto his bow, and unto his
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