"There should be some sort of compromise here. Put in the lights. Lights are a safety issue also.They do not have to be on all the time. I doubt the the observatory would require no lights every night or that the playfield would need them every night. Work out a schedule that accommodates both."--Roger Falen<br> <br> I agree Roger. The baseball team can use the lights everyday from 7 AM to 7PM and the Observatory can have them off from 7PM to 7AM.--This would be fair.<br> <br> Of course, when you have people waiting years to use the observatory and millions of dollars in outside funding riding on it, it might take a while before the lights can come on at night. And also keep in mind that an image in space can take days to develop and lights turned on can ruin that image.<br> <br> Here is an idea. How about putting the park that needs lights somewhere else other than the only place in the city where we cannot have lights on. Just a thought.<br> <br>
_DJA<br><br><b><i>lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">There should be some sort of compromise here. Put in the lights. Lights are a safety issue also.They do not have to be on all the time. I doubt the the observatory would require no lights every night or that the playfield would need them every night. Work out a schedule that accommodates both.<br><br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "James Reynolds" chapandmaize@hotmail.com<br>Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:57 -0700<br>To: shawnc@outtrack.com<br>Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Playfield<br><br>> Shawn,<br>> <br>> Thank you for the information, it is much appreciated. The university <br>> physics department runs the observatory and although I don't know much about <br>> what they study it's the stuff that gets men on the moon and ships to Mars. <br>> I think that
today's physicists would need at least introductory level <br>> knowledge of astral physics so it is probably considered critical to the <br>> department's educational and research goals. What I heard is that if the <br>> field lights were on at night their equipment is so sensitive that the <br>> Southern horizon would be washed out completely. The observatory has been <br>> in place for at least the thirty years that I have been in Moscow so they do <br>> have squatters rights and it isn't something that can be moved.<br>> <br>> I am, as I am sure most of Moscow's residents are, happy for the success of <br>> your program and it would be good if it could have all the resources it <br>> could use. Perhaps the site selection is not completely appropriate for the <br>> ball fields but I think they would be great to have at that site even <br>> without the lights. the two additional Ripken fields ought to be a great <br>> boon to your
scheduling problems even if you cannot schedule night games. <br>> All of us parents have had to cut work to attend our children's games, that <br>> is part of the "game" for us to be inconvenienced so. I think having the <br>> parents inconvenienced is better than having the children up trying to <br>> perform late into the evening.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> >From: "Shawn Clabough" <shawnc @outtrack.com=""><br>> >To: <vision2020 @moscow.com=""><br>> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Playfield<br>> >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:19:28 -0700<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >-----Original Message-----<br>> >From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<br>> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of James Reynolds<br>> >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:13 AM<br>> >To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Playfield<br>> ><br>>
>Matt,<br>> ><br>> >I wasn't part of the committee but judging from the makeup it seems that<br>> >the<br>> >interested parties were all engaged so I am allowing their compromise to<br>> ><br>> >stand for me also. Of course some folk wanted lights or it would not<br>> >have<br>> >been an issue but the final thought of the committee was that the lights<br>> ><br>> >would cause more harm than good. I think that this was driven most by<br>> >the<br>> >fact that the UI has the observatory on the golf course hill and the<br>> >southern sky is very important to that program. It seems reasonable that<br>> >the<br>> >lights not be put up if they would impinge upon an existing use of that<br>> >horizon.<br>> ><br>> >I am also not so sure that the lights would be much utilized by the<br>> >children. It seems as if the lights were more wanted by the adult
league<br>> ><br>> >teams and the new fields are supposed to be for the children.<br>> ><br>> >James Reynolds<br>> ><br>> >-------------<br>> ><br>> >As I do the scheduling for the Cal Ripken league (8-12 year olds), I<br>> >will speak to this. I will first say that I am happy that there was a<br>> >compromise reached and happy that the number of fields was kept and the<br>> >committee acknowledged that there is still additional need and for some<br>> >location to have lights.<br>> ><br>> >As for the kids using the lights, I would have to disagree that they<br>> >would not use them. I could put them to good use. As it is now, during<br>> >the first half of the season, I schedule games at 4pm and 6pm so that<br>> >the later game can finish by 8pm just as the sun goes down. This is not<br>> >the best because the 4pm games causes parents to have to leave
work<br>> >and/or have someone else take their child to the game and they miss most<br>> >or all of the game. For the 6pm game, the shadows do get long towards<br>> >the end of the game and it becomes hard to see the ball. For the second<br>> >half of the season, I switch to 5pm and 7pm game times to make it easier<br>> >on parents, but lighting during the 7pm game would still be beneficial.<br>> ><br>> >I would like to thank the committee for their work on this and look<br>> >forward to having the fields ready for use. There are 19 teams (over<br>> >200 children) in the Cal Ripken league this year and finding fields to<br>> >get everyone a fair amount of games can be difficult and these new<br>> >fields will help. The league has been expanding every year, so having<br>> >them acknowledge need beyond these fields is appreciated.<br>> ><br>> >Shawn Clabough<br>> ><br>>
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