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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to thank Mr. Dickinson for making
himself available on this forum. I really have to take issue with him
and the other "smart growth liberals" (as Ms. Opyr so reverentially refers to
them) on the council. Making empty claims with regard to
how development friendly they are, when not a council meeting
goes by but what they prove otherwise is a cruel joke. Even though I
agree whole heartedly with the sentiment, do they seriously believe that
proclaiming "buy local" is all it takes to be seen as
pro-business/pro-growth? The reason people take their shopping dollar to
the internet or larger retail centers is for the greater choice that is afforded
to them. If those enhanced choices where available in our own community the
money would be much more likely to remain in local circulation. I would very
much rather deal with the consequences of retail expansion and it's
attendant irritations than suffer from the results of their "planned
growth" and recession.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G. Crabtree</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=johnd@moscow.com href="mailto:johnd@moscow.com">John Dickinson</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">'Donovan Arnold'</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Moscow Vision
2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:51
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Council Far
From Anti-Growth</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Visionaries<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When I talk with
businesses about <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City></st1:place> and friendliness, the conversations
are more about <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">where</SPAN></I> people buy
things. I have had several business owners tell me that they thought <st1:City
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City> was not especially friendly because so many people
travel to <st1:City w:st="on">Lewiston</st1:City> or <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spokane</st1:place></st1:City> to buy a car or
use the internet to purchase books, CDs, or clothes. The benefit of either
sales or property taxes is dwarfed by the effect of buying local. Being
business friendly is a community issue, not simply a government one. Buy
something today in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am sure that no
members of our community would like a City Council that rubber stamped
everything that came before it. To question proposals is an important function
of the council. For example, the proposed development just across the state
line is very large. It would essentially double the commercial space in the
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> area. I
dont believe that growth of this magnitude is planned growth. If we doubled
the number of houses in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City></st1:place>, or doubled the number of students at
UI, or doubled anything overnight wed have significant
problems.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I enjoy reading
V2020; perhaps the next V2020 social activity could be a shopping spree from
one end of town to the other.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John
Dickinson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Your city council
member.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Donovan Arnold<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:38
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> g. crabtree; Tom
Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] Council Far
From Anti-Growth</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Gary</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:City> brings up an
excellent point! <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>'s city government has been very
anti-business. It has opposed businesses wanting to develop in the East, and
West. It has opposed Walmart, Home Depot, and other businesses coming into the
area. It has done nothing to help many local businesses that are going under.
But not only does it oppose businesses in <st1:City
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City>, it is also fighting efforts for jobs and
businesses developing in Latah and in the Pullman/Moscow corridor on the
<st1:place w:st="on">Pullman</st1:place> side.<BR><BR>The only place <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> allows a business
to be located in downtown, which does not have enough parking for many types
of businesses, or in an already existing location which is not properly suited
for the business. <BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"g. crabtree"
<jampot@adelphia.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think that it's fairly safe to say that when a
council meddles wit! h how <BR>many square feet a business can be, by what
percentage it may expand, and <BR>what sort of a "living wage " it will pay,
it's no friend to business. While <BR>I am reluctantly willing to take Mr.
Stout at his word that he's pro growth <BR>and pro business, I sure haven't
seen or heard anything from him or the <BR>council as a whole that makes me
believe it to be the case. To say that <BR>you're pro business as long as you
pay a given wage, sell the correct <BR>product from the approved country,are
just the right size in exactly the <BR>right location, and are owned by the
proper people is to encourage <BR>development a mile or two across the border
in Whitman county. Perhaps those <BR>are the people our McC(A)ouncil and mayor
represents.?<BR><BR>G. Crabtree<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR>From: "Tom Hansen" <BR><THANSEN @moscow.com="">To: "<st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> Vision 2020"
<BR><VISION2020 @moscow.com="">Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:01
PM<BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Counci! l Far From Anti-Growth<BR><BR><BR>>
>From today's (March 13, 2006) Daily News with a special thnks to <BR>>
>Councilman<BR>> Robert Stout -<BR>><BR>>
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Council far from anti-growth<BR>><BR>> I have been somewhat surprised by
the amount of false information being<BR>> propagated about the new Moscow
City Council's attitude towards growth and<BR>> development in our
community. The mantra describing our efforts seems to <BR>> be<BR>> "no
growth" and "anti-business". As far as my personal attitude, that<BR>>
couldn't be further from the truth. I recognize the benefits of having
a<BR>> thriving business community and will always foster that. However, I
also<BR>> recognize such things as a living wage, some regulations on
business and<BR>> developments, and supporting growth that protects
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>'s
quality of <BR>> life.<BR>><BR>> When individuals in our community
repeat the no-growth rhetoric there is a<BR>> negative connotation that
does not help our community thrive and prosper.<BR>> The new council has
been in office for about 60 days. We have not <BR>> approved<BR>> any
ordinances that could reasonably be construed as anti-business or<BR>>
no-growth. The concept of the recently passed large retail ordinance
has<BR>> been in the works for quite some time. The premise of this
ordinance is <BR>> not<BR>> to discourage large retail establishments
from locating in our community,<BR>> but rather bring them in as an equal
partner in protecting the quality of<BR>> life of our city.<BR>><BR>>
I was not elected to represent any one interest in this community. I <BR>>
wasn't<BR>> elected to represent the realtors, the MCA, the chamber of
commerce, the<BR>> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> community, or downtown business. I
was elected to<BR>> represent our community as a ! whole and make informed
and fair decisions <BR>> that<BR>> will keep our community economically
and socially sustainable. I intend <BR>> to<BR>> do that and hope you
will join me in my efforts.<BR>><BR>> Robert C. Stout<BR>> <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City><BR>><BR>>
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Thank you, Councilman Stout.<BR>><BR>> Instead of alleging fault where
no fault exists, I challenge the people of<BR>> <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> to support and
evaluate our city council openly and fairly.<BR>><BR>> If it is felt
that the council could improve in certain areas, provide<BR>> constructive
criticism. At the same time, if it is felt that the council <BR>>
is<BR>> performing their responsibilities in an exemplary manner, tell
them.<BR>><BR>> It's an old adage, people, and it has worked for
limitless generations:<BR>><BR>> "Don't tell me why I can't. Tell me how
I can."<BR>><BR>> Seeya round tow! n, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><BR>><BR>> "The Pessimist
complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change<BR>> and the
Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>> - Unknown<BR>><BR>><BR>>
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