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<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In
defense of Wal-Mart or at least the photo lab.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have
used Wal-Mart's 1-hour service many times when I don't need hand checked prints.
I've found their service outstanding and their product reasonable. (A mini-lab
is a mini-lab is a mini-lab).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>On
several occasions, when I was still shooting film for the paper, I needed
prints....fast. And they gave them to me within a 1/2 hour. I've had them custom
crop, no problem. Push/pull process, again, no problem. And they've NEVER lost a
roll of film or order of mine in-house. Thats more than I can say for the
'local" place. They didn't lose just one order, they lost two, then got them
mixed up. In the meantime, I had angry customers and had to refund money, then
got billed for the lost orders anyway.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I used
to send people to that lab, then started hearing negative things about them. I
sent my mother-in-law there for enlargements, she got told "That won't work" for
a crop I suggested.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I took
the negs and proofs to Clarkston and Wasem's did what we wanted with no problem
and the prints looked great.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So,
for 'quickie printsor enlargements" its Wal-Mart for me. For hand checked, its
Wasem's. Both have served me well, with excellent results.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279222923-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just
because its "local" doesn't mean its any good.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Donovan Arnold<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:57
PM<BR><B>To:</B> keely emerinemix; deco@moscow.com;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Council Far From
Anti-Growth<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><PRE><TT>"I bought stuff at the Co-Op, Spence, Pets Are <BR>People, Too, and Tri-State. I could have gotten most of it at Wal-Mart, but <BR>why deal with the crowds, the shoddy merchandise, and the largely uncaring <BR>attitude of the clerks?"--Keely </TT></PRE><BR>Really?
I cannot find anything I get at Walmart anywhere else. I do not think that
TriState, CoOp, and PRP2 sell the same items as Walmart. To me it is like
comparing Jack_N_Box's $1.29 breakfast burrito to a Patty's 12 inch Supreme,
sure they are both restaurants, but I do not think they are in competition and
anyone can say they serve interchangeable needs and services. Walmart is only
in competition with the Internet, ShopKo, and a use to be a Kmart that it
drove out of business. I would rather buy my cheap consumable goods from a
local Walmart, which employs local families than go to ShopKo or get it off
the Internet. <BR><BR>Take Care,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><BR><B><I>keely emerinemix
<kjajmix1@msn.com></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">I
find it easy to shop in Moscow most of the time, and while there are
<BR>sometimes things I can't get here that I have to go online for, there
are a <BR>lot of things here I can't get most other places.<BR><BR>For
example, my son wears Converse High-Tops in an 11, but he likes the more
<BR>offbeat styles, not the limited selection at Footlocker. Enter Zappos or
<BR>Ebay online. On the other hand, he and I cruise Bookpeople every month
for <BR>a magazine we can't find anywhere else, and when my friend from the
<BR>Tri-Cities and I went shopping this last weekend, it was at Bookpeople
again <BR>that she found an obscure (and discounted) title about a lost
Caravaggio <BR>painting.<BR><BR>I bought my funky green-and-white Raleigh
cruiser at Paradise Creek, <BR>replaced the stone in my wedding ring at Gem
State (the cat che! wed out the <BR>diamond; I will not, however, replace
the cat), and recently got something <BR>framed at Floyd Peterson's and
Katie Beard's frameshop by Tie-Dye <BR>Everything. The latter I had not
known about, but a comically disastrous <BR>turn at Michael's led me there.
I got better work for less, without the <BR>snottiness and inexperience of
the Michael's framing department manager. <BR>Just last weekend, I bought
stuff at the Co-Op, Spence, Pets Are People, <BR>Too, and Tri-State. I could
have gotten most of it at Wal-Mart, but why <BR>deal with the crowds, the
shoddy merchandise, and the largely uncaring <BR>attitude of the clerks? I
don't think I paid more, and I got to chat with <BR>Kara at Pets Are People,
Too, who always remembers my darling cat, Finley <BR>(whose name means "one
who eats diamonds" in Spanish, I think). It's a <BR>privilege to shop
locally and a concession to go online (for example, I <BR>couldn't find a
vintage two-track Druecke scoremaster deluxe! cribbage board <BR>here, but
that's why we have eBay. I like to think I make up for it at the <BR>One
World and Sangria).<BR><BR>There's no great Econ 101 lesson here, but I
think there's a terrific <BR>example of what it means to live in a small
town. I don't feel at all <BR>deprived living here. What would feel like a
deprivation would be going <BR>throughout the day without those small-town
opportunities to meet, greet, <BR>and support my neighbors. I'd miss them,
I'd miss their businesses, and I <BR>think they'd miss me, personally and
economically, if I played shop-jockey <BR>online or skipped over Moscow to
OD on one-stop shopping elsewhere.<BR><BR>And yes, I feel that way even when
clerks mistakenly call me . . . sigh . . <BR>.
"Kelly."<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><BR>From: "Art Deco" <DECO
@moscow.com=""><BR>To: "Vision 2020" <VISION2020 @moscow.com=""><BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Council Far From Anti-Growth<BR>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006
12:22:27 -0800<BR><BR>John, Kit, et al,<BR>! <BR>We do most of our shopping
in Moscow basically except for the following:<BR><BR>1. Costco<BR>2. The
Internet for items that are not available here or are very grossly
<BR>overpriced. In fact we scan the internet then try to buy or special
order <BR>items here.<BR>3. Businesses with poor, rude, and or clueless
customer service. We have <BR>had some real horror shows with local
businesses.<BR><BR>With regard to 3 above: Perhaps the Moscow Chamber and/or
City could <BR>encourage some workshops for businesses that focus on
customer service and <BR>encourage all local small businesses to
attend.<BR><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A.
Fox)<BR>deco@moscow.com<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From:
"Craine Kit" <KCRAINE @verizon.net=""><BR>To: "John Dickinson" <JOHND
@moscow.com=""><BR>Cc: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <VISION2020 @moscow.com="">;
"'Donovan Arnold'" <BR><DONOVANJARNOLD2005 @yahoo.com=""><BR>Sent: Thursday,
March 16, 2006 12:05 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Council Fa! r From
Anti-Growth<BR><BR><BR>>As someone who is born and raised in Moscow (and
been around much longer <BR>>than Area Man), I’ve heard the claim that
Moscow is anti- business and/or <BR>>anti-growth for decades. That
includes the last 16 years when we had <BR>>conservative, Republican
mayors. So I don't think the labels have any <BR>>meaning when applied to
the current council, which only been in charge for <BR>>a few
months.<BR>><BR>>As long as I can remember, people have gone to
Spokane or Lewiston to shop. <BR>>Sometimes it's for a better selection
or a better deal. Others, it's an <BR>>excuse to get out of town for a
while and see the big city. Does that make <BR>>the city government
unfriendly towards business or growth?<BR>><BR>>Perhaps--instead of
just claiming unfriendliness due to government or <BR>>regulations--we
should ask:<BR>><BR>>a) Is Moscow really unfriendly or is that just a
nasty rumor?<BR>>b) If there ar! e factors outside the city that
influence the perception of <BR>>friendliness?<BR>><BR>>I have a
suggestion to start a conversation on b). Once-upon-a-time I had <BR>>a
conversation with a businessman who had considered locating his company
<BR>>in Moscow. He decided not to because--in his words--YOU CAN'T GET
THERE <BR>>FROM ANYWHERE.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Kit
Craine<BR>><BR>>On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:51 AM, John Dickinson
wrote:<BR>><BR>>>Visionaries—<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>When
I talk with businesses about Moscow and friendliness, the
<BR>>>conversations are more about where people buy things. I have had
several <BR>>>business owners tell me that they thought Moscow was not
especially <BR>>>friendly because so many people travel to Lewiston or
Spokane to buy a <BR>>>car or use the internet to purchase books, CDs,
or clothes. The benefit <BR>>>of either sales or property taxes is
dwarfed by! the effect of buying <BR>>>local. Being business friendly
is a community issue, not simply a <BR>>>government one. Buy something
today in Moscow.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>I am sure
that no members of our community would like a City Council that
<BR>>>rubber stamped everything that came before it. To question
proposals is <BR>>>an important function of the council. For example,
the proposed <BR>>>development just across the state line is very
large. It would <BR>>>essentially double the commercial space in the
Moscow area. I don’t <BR>>>believe that growth of this magnitude is
planned growth. If we doubled <BR>>>the number of houses in Moscow, or
doubled the number of students at UI, <BR>>>or doubled anything
overnight – we’d have significant
problems.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>I enjoy reading
V2020; perhaps the next V2020 social activity could be a
<BR>>>shopping sp! ree from one end of town to the
other.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>John
Dickinson<BR>>><BR>>>Your city council
member.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>From:
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
<BR>>>bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold<BR>>>Sent:
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:38 AM<BR>>>To: g. crabtree; Tom Hansen;
Moscow Vision 2020<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Council Far From
Anti-Growth<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Gary brings up an
excellent point! Moscow's city government has been very
<BR>>>anti-business. It has opposed businesses wanting to develop in
the East, <BR>>>and West. It has opposed Walmart, Home Depot, and
other businesses coming <BR>>>into the area. It has done nothing to
help many local businesses that are <BR>>>going under. But not only
does it oppose businesses in Moscow, it is also <BR>>>fighting efforts
for jobs ! and businesses developing in Latah and in the
<BR>>>Pullman/Moscow corridor on the Pullman
side.<BR>>><BR>>>The only place Moscow allows a business to be
located in downtown, which <BR>>>does not have enough parking for many
types of businesses, or in an <BR>>>already existing location which is
not properly suited for the
business.<BR>>><BR>>>_DJA<BR>>><BR>>>"g. crabtree"
<JAMPOT @adelphia.net="">wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>I think that it's
fairly safe to say that when a council meddles wit! h
<BR>>>how<BR>>>many square feet a business can be, by what
percentage it may expand, and<BR>>>what sort of a "living wage " it
will pay, it's no friend to business. <BR>>>While<BR>>>I am
reluctantly willing to take Mr. Stout at his word that he's pro
<BR>>>growth<BR>>>and pro business, I sure haven't seen or heard
anything from him or the<BR>>>council as a whole that makes me!
believe it to be the case. To say that<BR>>>you're pro business as
long as you pay a given wage, sell the correct<BR>>>product from the
approved country,are just the right size in exactly the<BR>>>right
location, and are owned by the proper people is to
encourage<BR>>>development a mile or two across the border in Whitman
county. Perhaps <BR>>>those<BR>>>are the people our McC(A)ouncil
and mayor represents.?<BR>>><BR>>>G.
Crabtree<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>From: "Tom Hansen"<BR>>>To: "Moscow Vision
2020"<BR>>>Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:01 PM<BR>>>Subject:
[Vision2020] Counci! l Far From
Anti-Growth<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> > >From today's (March
13, 2006) Daily News with a special thnks to<BR>>> >
>Councilman<BR>>> > Robert Stout -<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
<BR>>>----<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Council far from
anti-growth<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I have been somewhat surprised
by the amount of false information<BR>>>being<BR>>> >
propagated about the new Moscow City Council's attitude
towards<BR>>>growth and<BR>>> > development in our community.
The mantra describing our efforts<BR>>>seems to<BR>>> >
be<BR>>> > "no growth" and "anti-business". As far as my personal
attitude,<BR>>>that<BR>>> > couldn't be further from the
truth. I recognize the benefits of<BR>>>having a<BR>>> >
thriving business community and will always foster that.
However,<BR>>>I also<BR>>> > recognize such things as a
living wage, some regulations on<BR>>>business and<BR>>> >
developments, and supporting growth that protects
Moscow's<BR>>>quality of<BR>>> > life.<BR>>>
><BR>>> > When individuals in our community repeat the no-growth
rhetoric<BR>>>there is a<BR>>> > negative connotation that
does not help our community thrive and<BR>>>prosper.<BR>>> >
The new council has been in office for about 60 days. We have
not<BR>>> > approved<BR>>> > any ordinances that could
reasonably be construed as anti-<BR>>>business or<BR>>> >
no-growth. The concept of the recently passed large
retail<BR>>>ordinance has<BR>>> > been in the works for quite
some time. The premise of this<BR>>>ordinance is<BR>>> >
not<BR>>> > to discourage large retail establishments from locating
in our<BR>>>community,<BR>>> > but rather bring them in as an
equal partner in protecting the<BR>>>quality of<BR>>> > life
of our city.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I was not! elected to
represent any one interest in this community. I<BR>>> >
wasn't<BR>>> > elected to represent the realtors, the MCA, the
chamber of<BR>>>commerce, the<BR>>> > University of Idaho
community, or downtown business. I was<BR>>>elected to<BR>>>
> represent our community as a ! whole and make informed and
fair<BR>>>decisions<BR>>> > that<BR>>> > will keep
our community economically and socially sustainable.
I<BR>>>intend<BR>>> > to<BR>>> > do that and hope
you will join me in my efforts.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Robert C.
Stout<BR>>> > Moscow<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
<BR>>>----<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Thank you, Councilman
Stout.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Instead of alleging fault where no
fault exists, I challenge the<BR>>>people of<BR>>> &g! t;
Moscow to support and evaluate our city council openly and
fairly.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > If it is felt that the council
could improve in certain areas,<BR>>>provide<BR>>> >
constructive criticism. At the same time, if it is felt that
the<BR>>>council<BR>>> > is<BR>>> > performing their
responsibilities in an exemplary manner, tell them.<BR>>>
><BR>>> > It's an old adage, people, and it has worked for
limitless<BR>>>generations:<BR>>> ><BR>>> > "Don't
tell me why I can't. Tell me how I can."<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
Seeya round tow! n, Moscow.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Tom
Hansen<BR>>> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>>> ><BR>>> > "The
Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it<BR>>>to
change<BR>>> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>>> >
- Unknown<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> >
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