"Considers themselves to be a "partner" in a relationship and not just an inactive participant?"<br> <br> Tom, what is an "inactive participant"? <br><br><b><i>Tom Ivie <the_ivies3@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">WHAT?! Social Causation of women in F-16's? I must admit, sometimes my wife's reflexes are better than mine, especially when I tick her off. At those times she would probably be dangerous in an F-16. But I am thinking that is not the point being made? The term "health nazi" has me perplexed. What is a health nazi? Maybe it would be more productive to describe "feminist"? Perhaps a strong woman who can think for herself? Considers themselves to be a "partner" in a relationship and not just an inactive participant? <br><br><b><i>Michael <metzler@moscow.com></i></b> wrote: <blockquote class="replb!
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{size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Keely & J,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">I dont think <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wilson</st1:place></st1:City>s point (he quotes from his own book) was that women in the pulpit led to sodomites and health nazis; rather, this led to women in the cockpit of F-16s. This seems a tame claim to me, one I suspect we would all actually agree with. Perhaps at the very most women in pulpits led to feminism, but that doesnt seem right historically. So Im assuming this point about women is merely an illustratio!
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social causation involved with the separate and preceding list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Michael Metzler <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">Wilson</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">'s vile spittal:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier
New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">"The declension of culture in America is comparable to well-meaning but naive ! parents who raise a child without discipline and without instilling self-control and who are then shocked at the extent of the rebellion apparent when that child gets away from home. The extent of our current rebellion can be seen in our cultural parade of sodomites, cotqueans, health nazis, and feminists. But the nature of this rebellion was established long before. There were women in pulpits and standing at altars long before they were seated in the cockpits of F-16s" (The Paideia of God, p. 116).<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">Posted by <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Douglas</st1:PersonName> Wilson - 3/6/2006 3:46!
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"<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New';">So, those involved with the doggy do-do in the cars, aimed ONLY at those in disagreement with Doug - where do they fall within his tirade? What self-control did they show? How about those that were invovled in the snowball fight in the parking lot this winter, that a community business owner complained of at a City Meeting? Of the deceitful manner in which Halverson gathered signatures for a bogus petition? Or those that start up businesses in illegal places and ways? Or open betting houses and then refuse to pay taxes on the house's "take"? Obviously, I could go on and on and on....<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">And in reference to "women at the pulpit! " - where does that leave Debra? or Mary, for that matter? What, now women can't even "stand at the alter"? <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">Where's it say that?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">And just what the bleep is a "health nazi"? Or is this another example of Doug calling someon!
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that he does not agree with? Guess you missed the part in the Bible, Doug, that says "Love your neighbor as yourself" - either that, or you have a boat-load of self-loathing going on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">J :]<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier
New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>From: "keely emerinemix" <<st1:PersonName w:st="on">kjajmix1@msn.com</st1:PersonName>><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">vision2020@moscow.com</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>Subject: [Vision2020] oh, my<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>Date: Tue, 07 Mar 20!
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12:40:04 -0800<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><F !="" ont="" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>While checking out Blog and Mablog, Doug Wilson's contribution to . . . <o:p></o:p></span></F></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>well, to something . . . I noticed a post dated March 6 called "Where <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>The Problem Started." While DW is quoting a!
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another work, he <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>clearly affirms the message, and as a woman who has stood in the pulpit <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>and preached, I wa! s unaware I had caused so many of the world's alleged <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>problems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';">>Vile stuff, but filling enough for his au!
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