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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>WOW, After looking back at what I wrote and then
reading what you managed to infer from it I count myself lucky that you haven't
implicated me in all the great conspiracies of the twentieth century. Could you
read between the lines a little closer and see if perhaps the "Great
American Novel" might have been in there also. I could really use the money. I
would make some small additional attempt to clarify my previous remarks but
obviously all you would be able to derive from it is an admission that I yearn
to deliver our community up to the Great Deceiver and I am not ready to be found
out just yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As to the interaction that you imagine that you had
with me at my place of employment there is one thing that you should be aware
of. There are two people in that shop. One will share his opinions on any
subject at any time with next to no provocation and delight in your dismayed
response. The other will reluctantly discuss matters of physical security
if you express a serious interest. I am the latter. I offer you the
same advise I'd offer the vice president, positively identify your target.
(cheap shot, I know but I'm responding to a two bit argument)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G. Crabtree</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 17, 2006 2:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Plan in
Action</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Crabtree writes:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>"Mr. Metzler, Please reread
the actual words that I used in my post. I am not "castigating"you. I am not
calling on you to answer charges. I am not accusing you of any evil, specific
or otherwise. What I said was that I do not understand your particular
complaint with regard to Christ Church and Doug Wilson. Nothing more and
nothing less.</FONT> <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>It *seems* a matter internal
to the church and of no interest to those outside it. Providing information on
your own web page for those who wish to seek it is a reasonable thing. Someone
else taking it and attempting to influence my opinion and the rest of V2020
does not."</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Perhaps, I do not properly understand English, but part of
what Crabtree asserts is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>1. CCC doings are only of interest to
those inside.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>2. I and the rest of V 2020 have no
interest in this issue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>3. [Tacit] Do not post any more on
this topic since it will affect no one, especially me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Crabtree just previously posted:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"To look at my posts and take from
them any hint of "banning" or censorship is to completely and I suspect
deliberately misread what I have written. A fairly common tactic among the
I loathe CC crowd. For me to suggest an alternative to "fords" endless
carrying on is hardly totalitarian, anti "civil liberties," or "despotic."
Over blown rhetoric in the extreme."</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Exercise: Take the old adage, "If it looks like a
duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck."
Substitute the word "censorship" for "duck" in the quote just after rereading
the first part of this post.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>If Gray Crabtree honestly believes that what Michael, J
Ford, Keely Emerine-Mix, Sally Kirkland, and others have been posting is
not going </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2><STRONG>to
influence</STRONG> <FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=4>some of</FONT>
<STRONG>the rest on V2020"</STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=4> or
that there are none that are interested in the doings of the cult on V 2020,
then perhaps he needs a reality check.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Since Michael is currently a member of the CCC and J Ford
was once a member, their words have great significance and impact
for many of us. If they do not impact Crabtree, that is fine, he
can use his delete key. He doesn't have try to persuade Michael and
J Ford to take their comments elsewhere and despotically attempt to
deprive those on V 2020 who are interested.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>As a matter of fact, what both Michael and J Ford have
ably done is to point out the <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>huge
disconnect/irreconcilable dissonance</FONT></STRONG> between the with the
clear, cogent teachings of Jesus found in the words of the Gospels of Christ
(<EM>Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John</EM>) and the words and actions of Christ
church Cultmaster Douglas Wilson and some of followers like Comb-Over
Courtney and Slowman Farris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I am sure there are many Christian members of V 2020 who
consider the efforts of Michael and J Ford to be timely, important, and
inspirational. I am sorry that Crabtree doesn't and most likely never
will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>As another exercise for the interested reader:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Read the following words of Jesus and then read Comb-Cover
Courtney's web-blots and see if you can feel the explosive,
shattering dissonance between Courtney's apologist writing on behalf
of the cult and the use of the word "<FONT
color=#0000ff><STRONG>love</STRONG></FONT>" by Jesus below, and then ask
yourself : "Is this cult horrendously defaming, libeling, and slandering
Jesus by calling themselves "Christian," and by arrogantly and fraudulently
using His name in their title?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
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w:st="on"><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Romans
13</SPAN></B></st1:bcv_smarttag><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p><FONT
color=#ff0000><FONT color=#000000> 9 ...</FONT>Thou
shalt love thy neighbour as thyself; </FONT></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p><FONT
color=#ff0000><FONT color=#000000>10</FONT> the love to the
neighbour doth work no ill; the love, therefore, is the fulness of
law.</FONT></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Judge
Not<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><st1:bcv_smarttag
w:st="on"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Matthew
7:1</SPAN></st1:bcv_smarttag><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> 5<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Young's Literal Translation of the
Bible</I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">1<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Judge not, that ye may not be
judged</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">2<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">for in what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and in
what measure ye measure, it shall be measured to
you</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">3<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">And why dost thou behold the mote that is in thy brothers
eye, and the beam that is in thine own eye dost not
consider</SPAN>?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">4<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">or, how wilt thou say to thy brother, Suffer I may cast out
the mote from thine eye, and lo, the beam is in thine own
eye</SPAN>?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">5<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye,
and then thou shalt see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brothers
eye</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco
(Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT> </o:p></SPAN></P></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=metzler@moscow.com
href="mailto:metzler@moscow.com">Michael</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 17, 2006 10:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Plan in Action</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. Metzler, Please reread the actual words that
I used in my post. I am not "castigating"you. I am not calling on you to
answer charges. I am not accusing you of any evil, specific or otherwise. What
I said was that I do not understand your particular complaint with regard to
Christ Church and Doug Wilson. Nothing more and nothing less. It *seems* a
matter internal to the church and of no interest to those outside it.
Providing information on your own web page for those who wish to seek it is a
reasonable thing. Someone else taking it and attempting to influence my
opinion and the rest of V2020 does not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G. Crabtree</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=metzler@moscow.com href="mailto:metzler@moscow.com">Michael</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Plan in
Action</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Crabtree
Writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I have seriously tried
to comprehend the dastardly deed that seems to have inflamed Mr. Metzler
it
is just too arcane to understand how anyone outside the group could work up
much of a lather over <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Me:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Mr. Crabtree,
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">If you wish to throw me
into the heap of people you enjoy castigating here, please mention something
specific so that I can answer your charges. I really dont care to get into
any discussions with you, but Im hoping you would give me the ability to
defend myself by referencing some specific evil Ive done that you are
apparently very concerned about. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Thank
you<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Michael
Metzler</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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