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<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT><FONT size=4>J,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Thank you posting the scripture relating to the Christ Church
Cult's arrogant dismissal of the laws which they do not care to obey despite
clear scriptural direction to the contrary. I hope you do not mind but I
have posted below the actual text you cited from the clearer <EM>Young's
Literal Translation of the Bible</EM>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The message of these verses is extraordinarily direct and
clear. They need no exegeses what-so-ever. It is a stunning tribute
to Cultmaster Wilson's almost superhuman powers of manipulation and
persuasiveness that he has persuaded those of his Cult to believe the opposite
of <STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>What Has Been Written</FONT></STRONG> in this
case while lustily, piercingly, and with a straight face claiming to
be a Christian.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I have also highlighted in <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>bold red</FONT></STRONG> below an imprecation that many
believe to be the <STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>essential moral stricture of
Christianity</FONT></STRONG>. I will be remarking in further posts, as I
have done in past ones, about how far the Cultmaster and his Cult have strayed
from this particular commandment (as we saw last week in Reverend Doug Farris's
taunting abasement of you on Vision 2020), and why it is appropriate to think of
the Cultmaster not as a messenger of Christ, but instead as a messenger of the
Antichrist, if not the Antichrist itself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>________________________________________________________________</DIV></FONT>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><?xml:namespace prefix =
st1 ns = "qv9" /><st1:bcv_smarttag w:st="on"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Romans
13</SPAN></B></st1:bcv_smarttag><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">1<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Let every soul to the
higher authorities be subject, for there is no authority except from God, and
the authorities existing are appointed by God, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">2<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>so that he who is
setting himself against the authority, against Gods ordinance hath resisted;
and those resisting, to themselves shall receive judgment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">3<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>For those ruling are
not a terror to the good works, but to the evil; and dost thou wish not to be
afraid of the authority? that which is good be doing, and thou shalt have praise
from it, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">4<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>for of God it is a
ministrant to thee for good; and if that which is evil thou mayest do, be
fearing, for not in vain doth it bear the sword; for of God it is a ministrant,
an avenger for wrath to him who is doing that which is
evil.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">5<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Wherefore it is
necessary to be subject, not only because of the wrath, but also because of the
conscience, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">6<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>for because of this
also pay ye tribute; for servants of God they are, on this very thing attending
continually; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">7<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>render, therefore, to
all their dues; to whom tribute, the tribute; to whom custom, the custom; to
whom fear, the fear; to whom honour, the honour.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">8<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>To no one owe anything,
except to love one another; for he who is loving the otherlaw he hath
fulfilled, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">9<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>for, Thou shalt not
commit adultery, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not
bear false testimony, Thou shalt not covet; and if there is any other command,
in this word it is summed up, in this: </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Thou shalt love thy
neighbour as thyself;</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">10<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>the love to the neighbour doth work
no ill; the love, therefore, is the fulness of law.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "J Ford" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>privatejf32@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 2:07 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: [Vision2020] Doug and the Law...em, I mean
law</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> On Doug Wilson's blog this
AM, he talks (albeit, from the side of his mouth) <BR>> about christians
taking other christians to a church court rather than a <BR>> civil, secular
court (Humiliating the Apostle).<BR>> <BR>> His arguements MAY sound good
except he leaves out one important and vital <BR>> point - when the church
the disputes are to be taken to is corrupt and its <BR>> leader is corrupt,
taking things to that church makes no sense at all.<BR>> <BR>> He
basically states, "if you gotta eat it, eat it with pride knowing you <BR>>
didn't "violate" the church by taking it to an outsider."<BR>> <BR>> So,
this is false teaching?:<BR>> <BR>> "1. Everyone must submit himself to
the governing authorities, for there is <BR>> no authority except that which
God has established. The authorities that <BR>> exist have been established
by God.2Consequently, he who rebels against the <BR>> authority is rebelling
against what God has instituted, and those who do so <BR>> will bring
judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who <BR>> do
right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of <BR>>
the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he
<BR>> is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he
does <BR>> not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of
wrath to <BR>> bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary
to submit to <BR>> the authorities, not only because of possible punishment
but also because of <BR>> conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for
the authorities are God's <BR>> servants, who give their full time to
governing. 7Give everyone what you owe <BR>> him: If you owe taxes, pay
taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then <BR>> respect; if honor,
then honor."<BR>> (Rom 13:1-7)<BR>> <BR>> Seems to me Doug and his
bunch are rebelling when they refuse to abide the <BR>> tax laws, the zoning
laws, the gambling laws (anyone remember that mess?) <BR>> etc.<BR>>
<BR>> And when Doug refuses to abide by church law, as he did in reference to
the <BR>> CEF episode - well, this just begs the question:<BR>> <BR>>
Who is it Doug does listen to and follow the "law" of?<BR>> <BR>> Oh,
yeah...his own.<BR>> <BR>> J :]<BR>> <BR>>
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