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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>D-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>why are you assuming I was including all ATV and
4-wheel drivers in the last message? I certainly was not trying to do
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was referring to the mud-boggers who make their
own trails across streams etc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course I know that most 4-wheelers don't do
that, but the minority who are responsible are making a big mess out
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am hopeful that with this new park we can get a
handle on that problem on Moscow Mountain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't you support that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BL</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Area Man</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 03, 2006 1:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Moscow Mountain
Preserve</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=093194520-03022006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800000
size=2>So let me get this straight: Bill London wants to both *deny* and
*grant* access? <SPAN class=093194520-03022006>This would garner a LOT
more support if people were more inclusive rather than exclusive. By
pointing out the *bad* motorized people you alienate the *good* ones. I
don't lump those who shop at the Moscow Food Co-Op with everyone out there who
sparks up a doobie. Don't lump all motorized recreationalists
together.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=093194520-03022006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800000
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=093194520-03022006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800000
size=2>I know my form of recreation does not appeal to everyone. Your
form doesn't appeal to me as much as you either, but I at least participate in
yours as well as mine. I enjoy the outdoors just as much, maybe even
more, than those who recreate in only one way, mostly because I enjoy it in
different ways. Yes, there are a small percentage of bad apples, and
they do the most damage, and most of it is in very visible places. (yes,
Wayne will disagree with me on the percentages, but let's move
on)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=093194520-03022006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800000
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=093194520-03022006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800000
size=2>I know I'm not going to make any converts in here. I guess since
I enjoy a different type of recreation I should be banished from the Cedars,
as I obviously don't care about them as much. <sarcasm mode off>
Amazingly, I *do* support preserving The Cedars. I have spent time in
there on foot in the summer and on a snowmobile in the winter (albeit several
winters since) on an annual nighttime ride. I drive by them in my
pickup, or ride by them on my ATV or motorcycle, on my way to the old lookout
with my kids. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=093194520-03022006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#800000
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><SPAN
class=093194520-03022006>I don't mind that people want to close the
Cedars to motorized recreation. There are plenty of other places that
the money I spend on off-road sticker fees goes to maintain (not on
Moscow Mountain). I just wonder what kind of fees hikers and bicyclers
pay to maintain their trails? I'm pretty sure they don't buy off-road
stickers.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><SPAN
class=093194520-03022006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><SPAN
class=093194520-03022006>Dan Carscallen,
Moscow</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><SPAN
class=093194520-03022006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><SPAN
class=093194520-03022006>P.S. to the members of the Vizzz . . . Phil's
response came in after I started responding to this. It takes me a while
to respond when I'm torqued off.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bill London<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 03, 2006 11:34
AM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Tom Trail; Shirley
Ringo<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Moscow Mountain
Preserve<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We now have an opportunity to protect a unique
300 acre preserve on Moscow Mountain that includes a wonderful grove of
ancient cedar trees, the glorious viewpoint of on the rocky top of East
Moscow Mountain, and the forestland between those two sites. The
Nature Conservancy lease expires this year, and we need to preserve this
land -- as a state park or a county park -- for
perpetuity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Besides providing all of us, and our children,
with a great destination, designating this land as a park will help us solve
some of the most difficult outdoor recreation issues on the mountain.
This new park will focus both education and enforcement on the twin
problems of motorized eco-destruction and access.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Motorized land-destroying mud-boggers and ATV
drivers are ravaging Moscow Mountain, and the rest of the American
West. These machines chew trails into eroding ruts, and kill wildlife,
trees and streams. We have all seen meadows and creeks churned to
moonscapes because of these machines and their un-thinking
drivers. Through this new park on Moscow Mountain, maybe we can
provide enough enforcement and education to stop this
destruction.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In addition, with a park there near the top of
the mountain, perhaps we will find the resources to resolve the access
issue. If the interest in visiting the new park increases, we will fix
and maintain the road system to make it possible for everyone to enjoy both
the ride and the destination.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We need to preserve this 300 acre as
a public park. Please help this effort. For more information, see
<A
href="http://www.pcei.org/mm_cedars.htm">http://www.pcei.org/mm_cedars.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill London,
Moscow</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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