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<div>Were David or Moses shown mercy/pity by God?</div>
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<div>s</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">Phil,</font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">Thank you for posting
this important information. It certainly highlights how
dangerous religious/superstitious fantasies can become and how serious
a threat such can be to all of us who cherish freedom of
expression/inquiry -- a constitutional guarantee of our great country
and one which more than any other has lead to the greatness of our
country. </font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">I think we can safely
conclude that you</font><font size="+2" color="#FF0000"><b> strongly
oppose</b></font><font size="+4" color="#FF0000"><b> killing
people</b></font><font size="+1"> or otherwise punishing people<font
color="#0000FF"><b> simply</b></font> because of their
religious/superstitious beliefs and/or expressed opposition
to the religions/superstitions of others -- a<font
color="#0000FF"><b> principle</b></font> with which I thoroughly
agree. I have noticed that you have by implication expressed
this<font color="#0000FF"><b> principle</b></font> several times
before in your V 2020 postings with particular reference
to terrorists who are or who at least allege themselves
to be the only true Muslims.</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">However, in reality there
is little you or I can do to effectively oppose
religious/superstitious tyranny and irrationalism
internationally. </font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">Below the line is
reposted a message cited/derived from a local religious group which
also advocates that</font><font size="+2" color="#FF0000"><b> those
who do not share their beliefs</b></font><font size="+1"> (pay special
attention to</font><font size="+2" color="#0000FF"><b>
heresy</b></font><font size="+1"> in the quoted text)</font><font
size="+4" color="#FF0000"><b> should be killed</b></font><font
size="+1">. Please notice the vigor, rigor, and passion of their
imprecations.</font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">While you and I cannot
hope to have much of an effect on international matters in this
regard, whether such irrational intolerance with such
murderous consequences is shown by Christians, Muslims, Jews,
Hindus, etc, perhaps by acting vigorously we can hope to have a
prophylactic effect on a local group which espouses exactly the
same ideas.</font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">I greatly look forward to
your demonstrating your<font color="#0000FF"><b> principles</b></font>
as expressed by your postings by being vociferous in your protests of
and actions toward the local group who, exactly like the
individuals in the photo you referenced, openly advocate killing
those who do not agree with or question in various ways their
religious/superstitious fantasies.</font></blockquote>
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Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<br>
</font><a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><font
size="+1">deco@moscow.com</font></a><br>
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size="+1">__________________________________________________________</font
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">From<i>
Credenda/Agenda</i> by Gregory Dickison [Comments added]:</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><a
href="http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm"><font
face="Times New Roman"
size="+1">http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm</font></a
><br>
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face="Times New Roman"> </font><br>
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face="Times New Roman"> </font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Times New Roman">"The<b>
civil magistrate</b> is the minister of God to execute wrath on the
wrongdoer (Rom. 13:4). God has not left his civil minister without
guidance on how to exercise his office. The Scriptures set forth clear
standards of judgment for many offenses. Capital crimes, for example,
include<b> premeditated killing (murder), kidnapping, sorcery,
bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, and cursing one's
parents</b>..."</font><br>
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<font size="+1"></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Times New Roman">"In
contemporary American jurisprudence, none of these offenses is
punishable by death, with the occasional exception of murder. The
magistrates have dispensed with God's standards of justice. Some
Christians believe this is an improvement. They would be horrified to
think that the "harsh" penalties of the law should still be
applied. Sometimes this is the result of the<b> mistaken belief</b>
that the Old Testament has no further application after the advent of
Christ. This is an exegetical problem. Too often, it is the result of
a sinful view of the criminal.<b> This sin is called
pity.</b>"</font><br>
<font size="+1"></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Times New Roman"><i>"If
your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the
wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly
entices you, saying, "Let us go and serve other gods,". . .
you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity
him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him;<font size="+4"
color="#FF0000"><b> but you shall surely kill
him</b></font></i></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><i>..."</i> </font><font size="+1">
[</font><font size="+2" color="#0000FF"><b>Heresy</b></font><font
size="+1">: Beware, ye not of the cult (including unconverted
Jews)!]</font><br>
<font size="+1"></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Times New Roman"><i>"If
two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her
husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and puts out the hand
and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; your
eye shall not pity her..." </i></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1"><br></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font
face="Times New Roman"> </font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Times New Roman">God commands
the judge to evaluate the<i> crime</i> rather than the criminal.<b> If
the crime is one for which God requires death,<font size="+1"> then
death<u><i> must</i></u> be the punishment.</font></b></font><font
face="Times New Roman"> Your eye<i> shall not pity</i>.<b> Neither is
the repentance of the accused relevant to the imposition of the
sentence.</b></font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Times New Roman">"Thus,
the Bible teaches that pity is not an option where God has decided the
matter. The [civil] magistrate, God's minister, is to faithfully
execute justice according to God's standard, not man's... This
means that we must return to an obedience which confines pity within
the bounds which God has established for us."</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1"> </font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">----- Original Message
-----</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">From: "Phil Nisbet"
<</font><a href="mailto:pcnisbet1@hotmail.com"><font
size="+1">pcnisbet1@hotmail.com</font></a><font
size="+1">></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">To: <</font><a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><font
size="+1">vision2020@moscow.com</font></a><font
size="+1">></font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">Sent: Friday, February
03, 2006 9:51 AM</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">Subject: [Vision2020]
More on the Cartoons</font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="+1">> This is a Yahoo
photo of Islamic protesters in London. Read the signs.
Is<br>
> there any call for statements to exterminate all who oppose
Islam?<br>
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> Phil Nisbet<br>
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