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<DIV><FONT size=4>Phil,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Thank you for posting this important information. It
certainly highlights how dangerous religious/superstitious fantasies can become
and how serious a threat such can be to all of us who cherish freedom of
expression/inquiry -- a constitutional guarantee of our great country and one
which more than any other has lead to the greatness of our country.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I think we can safely conclude that you <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000 size=5>strongly oppose</FONT></STRONG> <FONT color=#ff0000
size=7><STRONG>killing people</STRONG></FONT> or otherwise punishing people
<STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>simply</FONT></STRONG> because of their
religious/superstitious beliefs and/or expressed opposition to the
religions/superstitions of others -- a <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>principle</FONT></STRONG> with which I thoroughly agree. I
have noticed that you have by implication expressed this <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>principle</FONT></STRONG> several times before in your V 2020
postings with particular reference to terrorists who are or
who at least allege themselves to be the only
true Muslims.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>However, in reality there is little you or I can do to
effectively oppose religious/superstitious tyranny and irrationalism
internationally. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Below the line is reposted a message cited/derived from a
local religious group which also advocates that <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000
size=5>those who do not share their beliefs</FONT></STRONG> (pay special
attention to <STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=5>heresy</FONT></STRONG> in the
quoted text) <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7>should be
killed</FONT></STRONG>. Please notice the vigor, rigor, and passion of
their imprecations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>While you and I cannot hope to have much of an effect on
international matters in this regard, whether such irrational intolerance with
such murderous consequences is shown by Christians, Muslims, Jews,
Hindus, etc, perhaps by acting vigorously we can hope to have a
prophylactic effect on a local group which espouses exactly the
same ideas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I greatly look forward to your demonstrating your
<STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>principles</FONT></STRONG> as expressed by your
postings by being vociferous in your protests of and actions toward the
local group who, exactly like the individuals in the photo you
referenced, openly advocate killing those who do not agree with or
question in various ways their religious/superstitious
fantasies.</FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>
<DIV><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>__________________________________________________________</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">From <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Credenda/Agenda</I> by Gregory Dickison
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"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><A
href="http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol3/magi3-9.htm</FONT></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>"The<STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"> civil magistrate</SPAN></STRONG>
is the minister of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer (<?xml:namespace prefix
= st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rom.</st1:place></st1:country-region> 13:4). God
has not left his civil minister without guidance on how to exercise his office.
The Scriptures set forth clear standards of judgment for many offenses. Capital
crimes, for example, include <STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: red">premeditated
killing (murder), kidnapping, sorcery, bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, and
cursing one's parents</SPAN></STRONG>..."</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"In contemporary American jurisprudence,
none of these offenses is punishable by death, with the occasional exception of
murder. The magistrates have dispensed with God's standards of justice. Some
Christians believe this is an improvement. They would be horrified to think that
the "harsh" penalties of the law should still be applied. Sometimes this is the
result of the <STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">mistaken belief</SPAN></STRONG>
that the Old Testament has no further application after the advent of Christ.
This is an exegetical problem. Too often, it is the result of a sinful view of
the criminal. <STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: red">This sin is called
pity.</SPAN></STRONG>"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><EM>"If your brother, the son of
your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend
who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and serve
other gods,". . . you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your
eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000 size=7>but you shall surely kill him</FONT></STRONG>..."</EM><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">[<STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff
size=5>Heresy</FONT></STRONG>: Beware, ye not of the cult (including unconverted
Jews)!]</SPAN></P>
<P><EM><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">"If two men fight together, and
the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of the one
attacking him, and puts out the hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you
shall cut off her hand; your eye shall not pity her..."<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></EM></P>
<P><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=3>God commands the judge to evaluate
the <I>crime</I> rather than the criminal. <STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: red">If
the crime is one for which God requires death,
</SPAN></STRONG></FONT><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: red">then
death </SPAN></STRONG><EM><B><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 36pt; COLOR: red">must
</SPAN></U></B></EM><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: red">be the
punishment.</SPAN></STRONG><FONT size=3> Your eye <I>shall not pity</I>.
<STRONG><SPAN style="COLOR: red">Neither is the repentance of the accused
relevant to the imposition of the sentence.</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Thus, the Bible teaches that pity is not
an option where God has decided the matter. The [civil] magistrate, God's
minister, is to faithfully execute justice according to God's standard, not
man's...<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This means that we must
return to an obedience which confines pity within the bounds which God has
established for us."</FONT></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "Phil Nisbet" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:pcnisbet1@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>pcnisbet1@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:51 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: [Vision2020] More on the Cartoons</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> This is a Yahoo photo of
Islamic protesters in London. Read the signs. Is <BR>> there any
call for statements to exterminate all who oppose Islam?<BR>> <BR>>
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