<div id="RTEContent">Sunil,<br> <br> If you want to make the argument that the Senate makes bad decisions because they say the Pledge, you go right ahead Sunil.<br> <br> -DJA<br><br><b><i>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> What are these studies? What is the 'new environment' faced by the city <br>council?<br><br>According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance the Senate <br>recites the pledge before each day's session. This will explain how they <br>have effectively dealt with the issues facing our nation. Because they say <br>say the pledge they have formed deeper bonds and work better.<br><br>That's why they are now funding the Iraq war as it goes on, rather than <br>creating deficits. It's why all Americans now have easy access to health <br>care, and any future problems for Social Security have been sol!
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<br>course saying the pledge helped the Senate address the problems caused by an <br>Executive that held itself above the law.<br><br>Think what those Senators could have done with a fight song.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><br>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>>To: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam @hotmail.com=""><br>>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The pledge Controversy<br>>Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:11:23 -0800 (PST)<br>><br>>Sunil,<br>><br>> You wrote,<br>><br>> "Perhaps I missed your reply to my question; do you have any evidence <br>>derived<br>> in your studies as a political science major showing a positive <br>>relationship<br>> between saying the pledge and improving governance?"<br>><br>> No, but I will contend that countries without pride, honor, and respect <br>>for their<br>> legitimate authority preform poorly and those that have a pledge, <br>>an!
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pride,<br>> honor, and give respect to legitimate government authorities last <br>>longer and provide for a better life for their citizens. Teams that have a <br>>fight song, preform<br>> better, and organization that say the pledge or recite a misson <br>>statement last<br>> longer and are generally larger and more productive. Studies show that <br>>when people do things together they form deeper bonds, work together <br>>better, and<br>> are more productive. Studies show that firmiliar rituals when in a new <br>>environment make people feel more included and comfortable and more likely <br>>to offer input and support to the organization.<br>><br>> "Boy, there's no better way to identify free people than by their <br>>compelled<br>> chanting."<br>><br>>Yes there is, banning people from formally and publicly demonstrating their <br>>respect and honor for what they believe in.<br>><br>>
_DJA<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam @hotmail.com=""> wrote: Donovan,<br>><br>>Perhaps I missed your reply to my question; do you have any evidence <br>>derived<br>>in your studies as a political science major showing a positive <br>>relationship<br>>between saying the pledge and improving governance? I look forward to your<br>>answer.<br>><br>>I had to read this twice to assure myself you actually wrote it:<br>><br>>"The reasons it is more important to compel people to say the Pledge then<br>>it is to prevent them are to numerous to list. However, I still state that<br>>one of the most important of reasons is that we remind people that this<br>>country is about freedom, justice and liberty for all so that they know<br>>when their legislatures and policy makers are violating the purpose for<br>>which this nation was founded."<br>><br>>Boy, there's no better way to identify!
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people than by their compelled<br>>chanting.<br>><br>>Sunil<br>><br>><br>> >From: Donovan Arnold<br>> >To: joekc@adelphia.net, Chris Storhok<br>> >CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The pledge Controversy<br>> >Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:33:17 -0800 (PST)<br>> ><br>> >"Any council member is free to enter the chamber BEFORE the council<br>> >meeting begins and say the Pledge. (I am not talking about the <br>>situation,<br>> >that Donovan noted, of saying the Pledge AFTER the meeting has begun.) <br>>Why<br>> >is this not enough? Why is it important to compel others to follow your<br>> >example of patriotism, or to publicly embarrass those who choose not to <br>>do<br>> >it? Again, you have a hard time convincing me that all this talk isn't<br>> >hooked up with some further political agenda."<br>> ><br>> > Joe,<br>> ><br>> &!
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Pledge is meant to be said with other people. A pledge or oath <br>>taken<br>> >alone loses its meaning, intention, value, and overall effect. The <br>>pledge<br>> >is a social function, not an independent function. It is a simple action<br>> >taken to show respect for the country and to acknowledge its authority <br>>as<br>> >the legitimate one for this community. If others are embarrassed for <br>>not<br>> >showing respect to those that give them their freedom and wealth, maybe<br>> >they ought to be.<br>> ><br>> > The reasons it is more important to compel people to say the Pledge <br>>then<br>> >it is to prevent them are to numerous to list. However, I still state <br>>that<br>> >one of the most important of reasons is that we remind people that this<br>> >country is about freedom, justice and liberty for all so that they know<br>> >when their legislatures and policy !
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are violating the purpose for<br>> >which this nation was founded.<br>> ><br>> > Take Care,<br>> ><br>> > _DJA<br>> ><br>><br>><br>>_____________________________________________________<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>---------------------------------<br>><br>> What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos<br><br><br>>_____________________________________________________<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> http://www.fsr.net<br>>
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