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So by your reasoning, Donovan, your choices are limited since we don't
have a Burger King or a Shop Co in Moscow. In fact, my choices are
limited since the closest McDonalds is two blocks away and not in my
kitchen.
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What I care about most are my own choices and having a Super Wal-Mart
will limit them by a lot. The Super Wal-Mart is scheduled to be
located about 1/2 mile from my house, drastically changing the area
where I live. I voice my negative views about the proposed Super
Wal-Mart in an effort to see if there are others who share my views
and my values; folks who live in Moscow precisely because it is
different from all the other towns in the world and have no desire to
make it just like every place else; folks who care more about local
ownership, aesthetic values, and human rights than low-price and
convenience which are the ONLY things that Wal-Mart has going for it.
Check your list below and see if I'm wrong.
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In the end, I am not the one who will make the decision, so it is just
false to say that, by expressing my views on the subject, I am
limiting anyone's choices. In the end, if we are lucky enough to
preserve our uniqueness and not have a Super Wal-Mart here it will be
because it is of the will of the people, expressed either through
actions of elected city officials or through the actions of a great
many of Moscow's citizens.
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Note that a large part of what I'm doing is merely pointing out to
folks that all of the arguments that you and others use suggesting
that Super Wal-Mart will increase our choices are fallacious. I'm
willing to let people decide for themselves who is right.<br>--<br>Joe
Campbell<br><br>---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 yahoo.com="#DEFAULT">
wrote:<br><br>=============<br>"Since we already HAVE a Wal-Mart and a Super
Wal-Mart is scheduled to go into Pullman, please tell me how it is
that keeping a Super Wal-Mart out of Moscow limits anyone's choice."
Joe Campbell<br><br>Joe,<br><br>I do not think you are comprehending
the argument here. It does not matter the reasons why thousands of
shoppers want a Super Wal-Mart. The questions is whether 30,000
shoppers and a willing company want to exchange property have the
right to do so when they are following all the same federal, state,
and local laws as everyone else. Can a rowdy, noisy, obnoxious
minority group of people stop a store from providing for the needs of
lower income families and those that wish to shop there?<br><br>If you
want reason of why it limits choice I will give you several of them;<br><br>
Someone does not have a car to drive to Pullman<br><br>Someone does not want
to burn the gas to drive to Pullman<br><br>Someone does not WANT to
drive to Pullman<br><br>Someone does not have the TIME to drive to
Pullman<br><br>Someone is not allowed to go to Pullman or cross state
lines<br><br>Someone wants to work at a Super Wal-Mart in Idaho<br><br>
Some one does not want to pay 5% tax on groceries<br><br>Someone wants
to keep tax dollars in Idaho<br><br>Someone wants to do one stop
shopping in Idaho<br><br>Someone wants to go for long walks indoors in
the winter or rain<br><br>Someone wants to do donuts in their big
parking lot a 12PM<br><br>Someone wants to walk or ride a bike to
Wal-mart<br><br>There is giant snow storm a Pullman is too far<br><br>
There ice cream might melt<br><br>There trunk does not close and want
to avoid the highway<br><br>They get lost in Pullman<br><br>They hate
Pullman<br><br>Pullman traffic is horrible because they have a game<br><br>
They do not know their way around Pullman<br><br>They like the Color Blue<br><br>
The Queen of England is English<br><br>Their girlfriend is ugly<br><br>OK so
the last three were irrational and illogical but so is the reasons for
opposing the right of shoppers to shop where they want.<br><br>_DJA<br><br><br><br><br>
joekc@adelphia.net wrote: Since we already HAVE a Wal-Mart and a Super
Wal-Mart is scheduled to go into Pullman, please tell me how it is
that keeping a Super Wal-Mart out of Moscow limits anyone's choice. As
I have stated and argued previously, two Super Wal-Marts would
eventually limit our choices far more.<br>--<br>Joe Campbell<br><br>
---- Donovan Arnold wrote:<br><br>=============<br>"Saying the pledge
is like saying a public prayer; it is an effort by believers to force
nonbelievers (whatever the belief might be; religious,patriotic,
political and so on) to comply with the believers version of reality,
no matter how screwy and non-rational that belief might be."-Don Huskey<br><br>
Ironic statement coming from a guy who wants to prevent 30,000 Palouse
residents from freely shopping at the store of their choice because of
his screwy non-rational political beliefs.<br><br>_DJA<br><br><br>
DonaldH675@aol.com wrote: Donovan,<br>I did not claim that anyone made
the recommendation to quit saying the pledge because at the time I
posted I had no idea who had made the suggestion. It was my own idea
that saying the pledge was and is a waste of time. And might I add
that at no time did I say anything about anyone's right to say the
pledge privately whenever they so chose. Saying the pledge is like
saying a public prayer; it is an effort by believers to force
nonbelievers (whatever the belief might be; religious,patriotic,
political and so on) to comply with the believers version of reality,
no matter how screwy and non-rational that belief might be.<br><br>Don
Huskey<br><br>"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then
they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi<br>
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