<html><div style='background-color:'><P><STRONG>Speaking of potluck. . . does anyone have an idea of how many are going to be attending? Would kind of help to make plans. . . do I cook up the grub in a big pot, or would a small casserole do just fine. This is probably just the worries of a former restaurant owner. . . just can't get away from it. Don't want to run out of food.</STRONG></P>
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From: <I>joekc@adelphia.net</I><BR>To: <I>Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I><BR>CC: <I>vision2020@moscow.com, Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] Divisiveness and blogs</I><BR>Date: <I>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:26:54 -0500</I><BR><BR>
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<P>I agree with this point. Which is why I encourage you all to attend next week's Vision 2020 pot luck! </P>
<P>One working rule of posting should be: Don't say anything that you wouldn't say if the person were standing in front of you. (Not that I myself always follow this rule, by the way. But I should.)<BR>--<BR>Joe Campbell<BR><BR>---- Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR><BR>=============<BR>OK Joe, I have to agree with you on that posting. : )<BR>But I still maintain that the Internet makes it harder to be civilized because you lose the body language, intonation, and attitude of a person that you get when speaking in person. Internet is good for content, horrible for understanding people.<BR><BR>Take Care,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><BR><BR>joekc@adelphia.net wrote: This will be my last post for the day. I've GREATLY exceded the allowable number! I find all this stuff so dang interesting it is hard to resist!<BR>I disagree with both Donovan and Carl on this issue. With new technology, we can SEE conflict and
divisiveness more than ever before. But that doesn't mean that there was less of it prior to the technology. Vision 2020 for instance allows me to air my disagreements with Donovan, say, directly and offers the best opportunity I can think of for allowing me a chance to convince him otherwise. Moreover, part of teh reason that I direct my comments toward Donovan is that I happen to share many of the beliefs that he has. If our worldviews were completely different I would not make any attempt to discourse with him. For instance, I've spent much of the day arguing with Donovan over the Pledge but the fact is I am just as much of a corny-ass patriot as Donovan is. If you put us both in a room where the Pledge was being given, our behavior would be indistinguishable. We would both stand proudly, hand over heart, reciting the words we've known all our lives. I know I<BR>would be filled with
emotion at the thought of being lucky enough to live in a country as great as ours, and I'm sure Donovan would say the same thing. I might often sound otherwise but I never loose sight of this fact.<BR>I do think that all of us can improve on our postings. We could certainly try to direct our comments in a nicer, friendlier tone. But we do need a forum with which to express our disagreements. Vision 2020 is not perfect but it is the only such forum we happen to have. Personally, I am very greatful for this opportunity.<BR>--<BR>Joe Campbell<BR><BR>---- Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR><BR>=============<BR>Carl is right. Blogs and email forums do create conflict and divisiveness. I find people on V2020, including myself, less considerate and polite to others online, versus in person.<BR><BR>I think it is in part because we do not see the person, often do not know them, mistranslating their
meaning, and/or get so caught up in the argument/content and lose site of the human on the other end.<BR><BR>I know many people on V2020, and none of you have horns and a tail. However, just reading the content of some people, I would swear you could trace their IP address directly to a dark tiny corner room on the bottom floor of Hell.<BR><BR>Carl, or anyone else, it would be interesting to see a study on the increase of divisiveness caused by blogs and ways to counter them.<BR><BR>Take Care,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR>Carl Westberg wrote: I, after extensive research and cogitation that started about 4 minutes ago<BR>and concluded just now, have determined that blogs are responsible for much<BR>of the divisiveness that comes with just about anything that's discussed<BR>anymore, from Wal-Mart to the pledge and everything in between. With<BR>approximately 4 million blogs being born every 5
minutes, it's incredibly<BR>easy to find those that mirror your worldview, and assure you of your<BR>absolute rightness in your beliefs. I'm as guilty of it as anyone, hanging<BR>out at Commondreams, etc., while those with a right leaning penchant can<BR>visit theirs, and everything is pure black and white for us, with no gray<BR>areas to complicate matters. I know I'm correct in this, because I just<BR>found a blog that says I am.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Carl Westberg Jr.<BR><BR><BR>_____________________________________________________<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>http://www.fsr.net<BR>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------<BR>Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used
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