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<DIV><FONT size=4>Donovan writes:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"But I still maintain that the Internet makes it harder to be civilized
because you lose the <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>body language</FONT></STRONG>,
intonation, and attitude of a person that you get when speaking in person.
Internet is good for content, horrible for understanding people."</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Part of what Donovan says may be true. However, losing
the sight of body language is sometimes compensated by not having to helplessly
wallow in the body odor of some debaters.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=joekc@adelphia.net
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">joekc@adelphia.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=carlwestberg846@hotmail.com href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com">Carl
Westberg</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 27, 2006 9:05 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Divisiveness and blogs</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV id=RTEContent>OK Joe, I have to agree with you on that posting. : )<BR>But
I still maintain that the Internet makes it harder to be civilized because you
lose the body language, intonation, and attitude of a person that you get when
speaking in person. Internet is good for content, horrible for understanding
people.<BR><BR>Take Care,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><BR><BR><B><I><A
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">joekc@adelphia.net</A></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>This will be my last post for the day. I've GREATLY exceded the allowable
number! I find all this stuff so dang interesting it is hard to resist! </DIV>
<DIV>I disagree with both Donovan and Carl on this issue. With new technology,
we can SEE conflict and divisiveness more than ever before. But that doesn't
mean that there was less of it prior to the technology. Vision 2020 for
instance allow! s me to air my disagreements with Donovan, say, directly and
offers the best opportunity I can think of for allowing me a chance to
convince him otherwise. Moreover, part of teh reason that I direct my comments
toward Donovan is that I happen to share many of the beliefs that he has. If
our worldviews were completely different I would not make any attempt to
discourse with him. For instance, I've spent much of the day arguing with
Donovan over the Pledge but the fact is I am just as much of a corny-ass
patriot as Donovan is. If you put us both in a room where the Pledge was being
given, our behavior would be indistinguishable. We would both stand proudly,
hand over heart, reciting the words we've known all our lives. I know I would
be filled with emotion at the thought of being lucky enough to live in a
country as great as ours, and I'm sure Donovan would say the same thing. I
might often sound otherwise but I never loose sight of this fact. </DIV>
<DIV>I do t! hink that all of us can improve on our postings. We could
certainly try to direct our comments in a nicer, friendlier tone. But we do
need a forum with which to express our disagreements. Vision 2020 is not
perfect but it is the only such forum we happen to have. Personally, I am very
greatful for this opportunity.<BR>--<BR>Joe Campbell<BR><BR>---- Donovan
Arnold <DONOVANJARNOLD2005
yahoo.com="#DEFAULT">wrote:<BR><BR>=============<BR>Carl is right. Blogs and
email forums do create conflict and divisiveness. I find people on V2020,
including myself, less considerate and polite to others online, versus in
person.<BR><BR>I think it is in part because we do not see the person, often
do not know them, mistranslating their meaning, and/or get so caught up in the
argument/content and lose site of the human on the other end.<BR><BR>I know
many people on V2020, and none of you have horns and a tail. However, just
reading the content of some people, I would swear you ! could trace their IP
address directly to a dark tiny corner room on the bottom floor of
Hell.<BR><BR>Carl, or anyone else, it would be interesting to see a study on
the increase of divisiveness caused by blogs and ways to counter
them.<BR><BR>Take Care,<BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR>Carl Westberg <CARLWESTBERG846
hotmail.com="#DEFAULT">wrote: I, after extensive research and cogitation that
started about 4 minutes ago<BR>and concluded just now, have determined that
blogs are responsible for much<BR>of the divisiveness that comes with just
about anything that's discussed<BR>anymore, from Wal-Mart to the pledge and
everything in between. With<BR>approximately 4 million blogs being born every
5 minutes, it's incredibly<BR>easy to find those that mirror your worldview,
and assure you of your<BR>absolute rightness in your beliefs. I'm as guilty of
it as anyone, hanging<BR>out at Commondreams, etc., while those wi! th a right
leaning penchant can<BR>visit theirs, and everything is pure black and white
for us, with no gray<BR>areas to complicate matters. I know I'm correct in
this, because I just<BR>found a blog that says I am.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Carl
Westberg
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