<div id="RTEContent">Exactly what it says. No hidden message.<br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>J Ford <privatejf32@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Just for the sake of clarification ONLY, what does this mean:<br><br><br>" I find it interesting that you believe so much in a woman's right to <br>choose to abort a fetus, OR ANOTHER DEVELOPING HUMAN..."<br><br><br>J :]<br><br><br><br><br>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>>To: Nick Gier <ngier @uidaho.edu="">, vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Woman's Right to Choose (where she shops) Hangs <br>>inthe Balance<br>>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:18:15 -0800 (PST)<br>><br>>Nick,<br>><br>> I find it interesting that you believe so much in a woman's right to <br>>choose to abort a fetus, or another developing human, but yet at the same <br>>time o!
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right to shop at a store of her choosing, like Wal-Mart.<br>><br>> It just seems ironic, doesn't it?<br>><br>> Mind you, I am opposed to legally preventing abortion. But if I had to <br>>prioritize limiting a women's right to choice, it would be to limit her <br>>options to a kill a developing human being over that of where she buys <br>>hamburger buns.<br>><br>> Thoughts?<br>><br>> -DJA<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>Nick Gier <ngier @uidaho.edu=""> wrote: Greetings:<br>><br>> Before this goes out to the usual venues, I wanted Visionaries to have <br>>a first read if they wish. If you find typos or more substantial points <br>>to debate, let me know. I'm glad that I can spell that last phrase better <br>>than Doug Farris.<br>><br>> A WOMANS RIGHT TO CHOOSE HANGS IN THE BALANCE<br>><br>> By Nick Gier<br>><br>><br>> During his confirmation hearings many America!
ns were
relieved <br>>to hear that John Roberts believes that the Constitution contains a right <br>>to privacy. He also considers Roe vs. Wade to be settled law. In <br>>recent hearings to replace Sandra Day OConnor on the Supreme Court, <br>>Samuel Alito agreed with Roberts on the first point but not on the second.<br>><br>> OConnor is the author of the significant proviso no undue burden, <br>>which limits the states power to restrict a womans right to choose. In <br>>one decision OConnor ruled that it was indeed an undue burden that a <br>>woman must get her husbands permission to have an abortion. In a dissent <br>>in the 3rd District Court of Appeals Judge Alito argued that any state has <br>>a right to require a woman to do just that.<br>><br>> A right of privacy is not specifically granted in the Constitution, but <br>>it is strongly implied therein. Americans have an inalienable right to <br>>hol!
d their
own beliefs, to act according to the dictates of their own <br>>consciences, and the right . . . to be secure in their persons, houses, <br>>papers, and effects. . . (4th Amendment). The right of privacy follows <br>>from the basic American belief that people are autonomous beings, which <br>>means that they have a right to determine their own lives without <br>>government interference.<br>><br>> During the Alito hearings there was grandstanding from both sides of the <br>>aisle, but the worst offender was Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma. Coburn <br>>repeatedly said that the science of fetal development should compel the <br>>Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade. To bolster his argument Coburn <br>>added he had delivered 4,000 babies in his career as an obstetrician.<br>><br>> Ive taught over 6,000 students and I hope that they have better <br>>reasoning skills than the good senator. Coburn stated that the ear!
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<br>>fetus has brain waves and a heart beat, but animal fetuses have these as <br>>well. What makes humans morally and legally different from animals is <br>>that they are persons, not just biological entities.<br>><br>> Our moral, religious, and legal tradition has held that persons are <br>>rational beings, who are able to determine their own lives significantly <br>>different from the ways they guide their children or control their <br>>animals. Several footnotes to Roe vs. Wade reference this long tradition, <br>>and I believe that the justices had sufficient reason to rule that the <br>>early fetus is not a person.<br>><br>> At the beginning of the third trimester, the fetal brain undergoes <br>>explosive brain development. At 25 weeks the brain cells are very poorly <br>>connected and the neocortex, the center of higher brain function, is <br>>undeveloped. At 33 weeks those same cells have thousands of con!
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<br>>and the neocortex has the six layers of the mature brain.<br>><br>> This brain is significantly different from most animal brains, which can <br>>form the physical basis for protecting the legal rights of a beginning <br>>person, a being with a serious moral right to life. This argument is far <br>>superior to fetal viability, a criterion that, as Senator Coburn pointed <br>>out, is vulnerable to technological advances in preserving the lives of <br>>premature fetuses. Fetal brain development will not change except for <br>>major and immoral genetic engineering.<br>><br>> My argument gives expectant mothers the same six months freedom from <br>>state interference but with a stronger legal foundation. The is also a <br>>nice logical symmetry between starting a person's life at this point and <br>>then legally ending it when the brain no longer functions. Its also <br>>imperative to note that 88 percent of !
all
American abortions occur within <br>>13 weeks of conception, long before any major elements of a person's life <br>>develops.<br>><br>> Anti-abortionists claim that abortion causes health problems for women <br>>who submit to them. These same people, however, do very little to support <br>>the social services and accurate information that would make abortions <br>>safer, earlier, and rarer, as is the case in most other industrialized <br>>countries. For example, in Belgium and the Netherlands there are 7 <br>>abortions per 1,000 women as opposed to 23 per 1,000 in the U.S.<br>><br>> The most horrendous effects on female health are found in countries that <br>>do not allow reproductive freedom, and the Bush administrations <br>>restrictions on family planning in foreign aid are making this problem <br>>worse. With a little over half the population, Brazilian women have more <br>>abortions than American women do.!
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Europe has the highest rate in <br>>the world: a staggering 90 unsafe abortions per 1,000 women. Generally <br>>speaking, the rate of abortion appears to be directly proportional to the <br>>restrictions placed on sex education and reproductive freedom.<br>><br>> As we acknowledge the 33rd anniversary of Roe vs. Wade on January 22, <br>>we should heed the heed the results of a recent Harris Poll: 70 percent <br>>said that they would oppose Alito if he intends to overturn this landmark <br>>decision. The choice for America is clear. We can continue to protect a <br>>womans right to determine her own life, or we can deny her this right and <br>>force her to face unhealthy and sometimes deadly alternatives to safe, <br>>legal abortions.<br>><br>> Nick Gier taught religion and philosophy at the University of Idaho for <br>>31 years. For more on the topic see <br>>www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/abortion.htm.<br>><!
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