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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. Hansen, My idea of romanticism is that it
was a movement of the late eighteenth century that celebrated nature rather
than civilization and implied impractical romantic ideals and attitudes. Or did
you mean romance? If so, I am afraid I am going to decline to answer since most
civilized folks consider that a matter between the two involved parties. Not a
topic for public discussion, no matter how prurient your interest. By the way,
you might reread the last sentence of your last post to Mr. Arnold and apply
those same standards yourself. In a previous post I think I made myself clear as
to how much "distance" between us I think is appropriate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g. crabtree</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=barb_crabtree@excite.com href="mailto:barb_crabtree@excite.com">Barb
Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A> ;
<A title=barb_crabtree@excite.com
href="mailto:barb_crabtree@excite.com">barb_crabtree@excite.com</A> ; <A
title=jampot@adelphia.net
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">jampot@adelphia.net</A> ; <A
title=johnd550@yahoo.com
href="mailto:johnd550@yahoo.com">johnd550@yahoo.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Douglas Wilson
on women</DIV>
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<TD width="100%"><FONT color=black size=2>Mr. Hansen,<BR><BR>No
apologies necessary and no ill feelings from this end -- I was not
insulted, offended, or anything else -- just letting you know that your
perception was somewhat incorrect (something that I'd guess happens as
much as not in this forum).<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>-- Barb (and please
feel free to call me that)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- On Sun 01/15, Tom
Hansen < <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>
> wrote:<BR><BR>
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</B>Tom Hansen [mailto: <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>]<BR><B>To:
</B><A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>,
<A
href="mailto:barb_crabtree@excite.com">barb_crabtree@excite.com</A>,
<A href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">jampot@adelphia.net</A>, <A
href="mailto:johnd550@yahoo.com">johnd550@yahoo.com</A>, <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR><B>Date:
</B>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:47:03 -0800<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE:
[Vision2020] Douglas Wilson on women<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Visionaires
–<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Two
things.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1) My
sincerest apologies to Ms. Crabtreefor any ill feeling that I may have
caused by my comments. If you re-read thestatement, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Arnold</st1:City></st1:place>,you will
realize that I attacked G. Crabtree, NOT Ms. Crabtree. However,
myapology stands as stated.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2) <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:City>: As I
have stated before, in civil society people do not address others by
theirfirst name unless they are invited to do so. Please continue to
address me as “Hansen”,or “Handsin”, or a more civil “Mr. Hansen”. I
wouldappreciate maintaining the distance,
ok?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tom
Hansen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Moscow,
Idaho<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">“Life should NOT be a journey to
the grave with theintention of arriving safely in an attractive and
well preserved body, butrather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one
hand, a drink in the other, bodythoroughly used up, totally worn out
and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
ride!'”</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Donovan
Arnold[mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, January 15,
20062:37 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
barb_crabtree@excite.com;thansen@moscow.com; jampot@adelphia.net;
johnd550@yahoo.com;vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Vision2020]
DouglasWilson on women</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tom,<BR><BR>I believe you will want to treat
those 3rd degree burns on your arse. I advisein the future you do not
bring a man's wife into your personal attacks onpeople you disagree
with. <BR><BR>_DJA<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Barb
Crabtree<BARB_CRABTREE@EXCITE.COM></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Hi Tom,<BR><BR>I hate to
introduce a little reality into the discussion, but Gary and I
have been married for 29 years, and I don't think I've ever run
out for a six pack. And, I'm the only football fan in the house.
We do have two daughters -- one who trains horses and the other
a senior at UI. Personally, I'll support anything career-wise
that they want to do. I suspect I'd prefer some careers more
than! others, but that is their choice.<BR><BR>By the way, I had
fun with everyone's reminiscing about <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.
One of my favorite places when I was a kid was the soda fountain
at the Owl Drug, where we always stopped for a 5 cent root beer
after the movie at the Kenworthy.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>---
Barb Crabtree<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- On Sun 01/15, Tom
Hansen < thansen@moscow.com >
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">From:
</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Tom Hansen [mailto:
thansen@moscow.com]<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:
</SPAN></B>jampot@adelphia.net, johnd550@yahoo.com,
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </SPAN></B>Sun, 15 Jan 2006
12:21:05 -0800<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:
</SPAN></B>RE: [Vision2020] Douglas Wilson on
women<BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="City"
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well,
Golly G –<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P></U1:P>Apparently
the G-ster would not like hisdaughter to grow up with a strong
sense of independent
self-worth.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR></!
div>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P></U1:P>My
guess is that G’s idea ofromanticism amounts to nothing more
than sending the old lady out for asix-pack at half-time,
huh?<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P></U1:P>Take
care, <st1:City u2:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City></st1:place></st1:City>.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2></FON!
t><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P></U1:P>Tom
Hansen<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Moscow</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">,
<st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho<U1:P></U1:P></st1:State></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy
size=3><SPANSTYLE ="FONT-SIZE:12.0PT;COLOR:NAVY"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><U1:P></U1:P>*******************************************************<BR><BR>"Feminism
is the radical notion that women are people."<BR><BR>- Unknown
<BR><BR>*******************************************************</SPAN></SPANSTYLE></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN><U1:P></U1:P></FONT></P><BR>
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align=center><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B><SPANSTYLE
="FONT-WEIGHT:BOLD"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></SPANSTYLE></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">g.
crabtree<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Sunday, January 15, 200611:20 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> John D;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020]
DouglasWilson on women</SPAN><U1:P></U1:P></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>
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face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P></U1:P>Would
I discourage my daughter from becoming a fighterpilot?
Absolutely.</SPAN><U1:P></U1:P></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONTSIZE
="2" face="Arial"> <AHREF title=johnd550@yahoo.com
="MAILTO:JOHND550@YAHOO.COM">John D
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face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<AHREF title=vision2020@moscow.com
="MAILTO:VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM">vision2020@moscow.com<U1:P></U1:P></AHREF></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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Sunday, January15, 2006 9:25 AM<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[Vision2020]Douglas Wilson on
women<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">"g. crabtree" <<A
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">jampot@adelphia.net</A>>wrote:<BR>>
No. Why?<BR>>> Is anyone else horrified by this
story?<BR><BR>Would! you treat your daughter this
way?<U1:P></U1:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>
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