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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been
here,but how early in you life you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you
were 5 years old your an "old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come lately.
Growing up in a place gives a person a certain perspective. When you have seen
the big, bad Safeway store move to town and displace the various ma & pa
markets that were the order of the day back then, you will have a reference
point for development in Moscow.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g.crabtree</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=starbliss@gmail.com href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=areaman@moscow.com
href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Area Man (Dan C)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020]Who's most
vocal? (was Zoning Law & FreewheelingCapitalism)</DIV>
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<DIV>Dan et. al.</DIV>
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<DIV>How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to be
considered an "old timer," in your opinion? I guess you think 20 years
is not enough? Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?</DIV>
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<DIV>Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old timers" out of
town? That's a strong statement. I think some accurate facts are
needed to back that up. I don't think many "transplants" would like this
view of their impact. </DIV>
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<DIV>It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants" to really
find out if they think development in the Moscow area is too much or OK.
I know people who are new to the area who think that those who complain about
the increase in traffic, etc. to be laughable, when they compare Moscow to
Boston, etc. It's a relative issue, I guess. I can compare Moscow's
current traffic to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town,
and I personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other changes
growth is bringing. </DIV>
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<DIV>I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to move to
Boise to escape all the traffic up here! But really I am not totally
joking. I expect traffic and big development in Boise, but I have no
reference point for how Boise was 50 years ago, or not a very personal
heartfelt reference point. But I do have such a reference point for
Moscow. </DIV>
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<DIV>"All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang on his
double solo album of the same title.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ted Moffett</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 1/9/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Area Man
(Dan C)</B> <<A href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">areaman@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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said:<BR>"The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality that
does<BR>not even know about or care about what is being lost, when people
with <BR>money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who will
think<BR>that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or
ugly<BR>development compromising the quality of life, are so
quaint."<BR><BR>I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against
"unmanaged<BR>or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not
older<BR>locals, but transplants. Yes, there are
some who are vocal that have <BR>been here their entire lives,
but most have not. I'm not saying that<BR>unmanaged development
is good, I'm just expressing my opinion about who<BR>is most vocal about it
(or anything else, for that matter). Part of<BR>that reason is
that the transplants are so vocal and good at making<BR>changes that it is
chasing the old timers out of town.<BR><BR>Moving to town 20 years ago
doesn't make you an old timer. Definitely<BR>not an old timer
like that ol' fart John Weber. <BR><BR>DC<BR><BR>P.S. I like
John, it's just been a few months since the campaign, and<BR>he probably
misses me poking fun at him. Although, since he is
a<BR>technophobe, he won't see this
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