<div id="RTEContent">Handsin,<br> <br> Here is a novel idea! Before spreading something that might be a rumor, why don't you get off your ass and go down there and check yourself. Then you can say, "There is (not) a suggestion box being maintained at Anselm House."<br> <br> This is lame as the time Reverend Keely wrote on here that she did not want to spread rumors about Peg Hamlett and then preceded telling everyone a rumor in the form of a question.<br> <br> Take Care,<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br><br><b><i>Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Rumor Control has it, and inquiring minds want to know:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is Moscow City Council maintaining a suggestion box at Anselm House?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hmmm.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size!
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font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Tom just stirring the stink pot Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">U.S.</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> Army (Double-Dipping Lifer)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Just Another Intolerista Liberal Elitista Diversity-Cleansing Wacko Nutjob Horses *** Loose in the Palouse Doing What Comes Natural<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;"> Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b>!
<font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce and Jean Livingston<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:20 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> vision2020@moscow.com<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] NSA/Verizon/Zoning Trouble Timeline (was: Whostartedit? Who cares?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I think that a subsequent post from Rose Huskey corrects, though not explicitly, the mistake in paragraph 3 below of Joan's recitation. I belie!
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the City did give NSA an occupancy permit for the Skattaboe bldg. What NSA failed to obtain was a "zoning certificate," which is also required. That certificate has still never been issued (and can't be, unless the zoning code is changed, because NSA has been found to be an illegal use under current code).<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The files available for review in City Hall plainly show that when NSA was being told about its various zoning violations in <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Fort</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Russell</st1:PlaceName> and that they had to leave <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Fort</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Russell</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> (where they were operating illegally), that the City explained the requirement of the Zoning Certificate. Nevertheless, NSA did not apply for a zoning certificate when it moved downtown.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Bruce Livingston<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color black; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div style=""> <div class="MsoNormal" style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial;"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:joanopyr@earthlink.net" title="joanopyr@earthlink.net">Joan Opyr</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">To:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:bbonte@moscow.com" title="bbonte@moscow.com">bill bonte</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Friday, December 16, 2005 6:33 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> [Vision2020] NSA/Verizon/Zoning Trouble Timeline (was: Who startedit? Who
cares?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br> On 16 Dec 2005, at 16:31, bill bonte wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Speaking of who started it, what was the origin of the NSA zoning mess. I have read vision2020 and the daily news for the past 2 years and I still am not clear on two points.<br> <br> 1. Didn't the realtor who sold the building to NSA know that the planned use was a violation of the zoning ordinance? Shouldn't she bear some (financial) responsibility for this mess?<br> <br> <br> 2. Why didn't the city intervene and forbid the use of the property as a college.&n!
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they know what was to be done with the property or was NSA's opening a surprise? If I open a small grocery store in my garage, zoned R-2, I'm sure I'd be issued a zoning violation citation and forced to close.<br> <br> I seems so simple to me: the CBD is not zoned for a college, close them down!<br> <br> Bill Bonte<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br> Hi Bill,<br> <br> This is the timeline of events, as best I recall:<br> <br> 1. The Verizon Building was sold by Bennett Realty, specifically by Shelly Bennett. (I may be spelling her first name wrong. Perhaps it's Shelley?) There was more than one bid for the building, and Doug Wilson's was the lowest, not the highest. Why NSA won is anyone's guess. A tax write-off for Verizon because they sold to a non-profit. (Yes, I know; that opens up another can of worm!
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<br> 2. At the time of the Verizon sale, New St. Andrews was located -- illegally -- in the home of Chris Schlect on <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Polk Street</st1:address></st1:Street>. The City told Schlect and company that they could not operate a college in this residential zone. The college continued to operate in that location until the Verizon/Skattaboe Building was renovated and ready to be occupied.<br> <br> 3. NSA moved into the Verizon/Skattaboe Building. They did not get and do not now have an occupancy permit.<br> <br> 4. Three evangelical Christians -- two former NSA students and one ex-member of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> -- filed a zoning complaint against NSA on the grounds that educational institutions are prohibited in the Central Business District. Why? Because the CBD was created to prevent the encroachment of the U of I!
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downtown retail space. This happened in the wake of the U of I's purchase of the old Murdock's Tavern and Cavenaugh's Hotel.<br> <br> 5. Joel Plaskon ruled on behalf of the City that the complaint filed against NSA was without merit or some such. (Mike Curley, the attorney for the three plaintiffs, will perhaps supply the correct terminology.) <br> <br> 6. Plaskon's ruling was appealed. The City Council then voted 4 to 2 that NSA could not, in fact, be located in the Central Business District under current zoning code. <br> <br> 7. Someone or ones set in motion the current attempt to amend the city zoning code so that NSA could remain downtown. I attended several city planning and zoning meetings, ably chaired by Jerry Schutz, who earned my eternal respect for his exemplary conduct of those hearings, during which everyone was hot under the collar and pretty damned feisty. He never lost his cool or, more importantly, his sense of humor and proportion. (I thi!
nk Jerry
is a Republican, so coming from this Democrat, this praise is high praise indeed.)<br> <br> 8. Planning and Zoning made a host of recommendations re: amending city code to allow NSA downtown. The City Council rejected those and bounced the whole thing back to P & Z, which worked again on this thankless task. The fight now seems to be about parking rather than a straight up-or-down should colleges be allowed in the Central Business District. <br> <br> I say no; some say yes; others don't seem to give a tinker's damn. I envy the latter group because they're not tempted to kick one another's teeth down one another's throat over this issue. I'm sure they fight about other things -- whether or not <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> needs a ring road; water mining; the proposed ball fields. Who knows? We're all different, and different things push our buttons. <br> <br> (Mine are pushed by people who call my friends "simperi!
ng douche
bags." I'm funny that way. I also don't much care for hectoring lurkers who get hold of the wrong end of the stick and then proceed to lecture me on bullying. I'm glad I don't have Kathy Sprague's nerve in my tooth.) <br> <br> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment<br> www.joanopyr.com<br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">_____________________________________________________<br> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>
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