<div id="RTEContent">Reverend Keely,<br> <br> "I would ask you to show me where I have ever spread rumors about Peg Hamlett. I have not."<br> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-November/021772.html<br> <br> Do you deliberately not tell the truth so much of the time, or do you view the world with a lens that just warps reality to fit what you want to see. Perhaps you should consider running for higher office. <br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-November/021772.html<br><br><b><i>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br>Normally I try to ignore you, Donovan, but I would ask you to show me where <br>I have ever spread rumors about Peg Hamlett. I have not.<br><br>I'm trying to be less angry with you and more understanding, but it's <br>getting harder.<br><br>keely<br><br><br><br>!
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Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>To: Tom Hansen <thansen @moscow.com="">, "'Bruce and Jean Livingston'" <br><jeanlivingston @turbonet.com="">, vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] NSA/Verizon/Zoning Trouble Timeline <br>(was:Whostartedit? Who cares?)<br>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:07:25 -0800 (PST)<br><br>Handsin,<br><br> Here is a novel idea! Before spreading something that might be a rumor, <br>why don't you get off your ass and go down there and check yourself. Then <br>you can say, "There is (not) a suggestion box being maintained at Anselm <br>House."<br><br> This is lame as the time Reverend Keely wrote on here that she did not <br>want to spread rumors about Peg Hamlett and then preceded telling everyone <br>a rumor in the form of a question.<br><br> Take Care,<br><br> _DJA<br><br><br><br>Tom Hansen <thansen @moscow.com=""> wrote: v\:* <br>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#!
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w\:* <br>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} <br> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } <br>Rumor Control has it, and inquiring minds want to know:<br><br> Is Moscow City Council maintaining a suggestion box at Anselm House?<br><br> Hmmm.<br><br> Tom just stirring the stink pot Hansen<br> U.S. Army (Double-Dipping Lifer)<br> Just Another Intolerista Liberal Elitista Diversity-Cleansing Wacko <br>Nutjob Horses *** Loose in the Palouse Doing What Comes Natural<br><br> Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of <br>arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to <br>skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body <br>thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'<br><br><br>---------------------------------<br><br> From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
<br>[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of Bruce and Jean <br>Livingston<br> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:20 AM<br> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA/Verizon/Zoning Trouble Timeline (was: <br>Whostartedit? Who cares?)<br><br><br> I think that a subsequent post from Rose Huskey corrects, though <br>not explicitly, the mistake in paragraph 3 below of Joan's recitation. I <br>believe that the City did give NSA an occupancy permit for the Skattaboe <br>bldg. What NSA failed to obtain was a "zoning certificate," which is also <br>required. That certificate has still never been issued (and can't be, <br>unless the zoning code is changed, because NSA has been found to be an <br>illegal use under current code).<br><br><br><br> The files available for review in City Hall plainly show that when <br>NSA was being told about its various zoning violations in Fort Russell and <br>that they had to leave F!
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Russell (where they were operating <br>illegally), that the City explained the requirement of the Zoning <br>Certificate. Nevertheless, NSA did not apply for a zoning certificate when <br>it moved downtown.<br><br><br><br> Bruce Livingston<br><br> ----- Original Message -----<br><br> From: Joan Opyr<br><br> To: bill bonte<br><br> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br><br> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 6:33 PM<br><br> Subject: [Vision2020] NSA/Verizon/Zoning Trouble Timeline (was: <br>Who startedit? Who cares?)<br><br><br><br><br> On 16 Dec 2005, at 16:31, bill bonte wrote:<br> Speaking of who started it, what was the origin of the NSA zoning <br>mess. I have read vision2020 and the daily news for the past 2 years and I <br> still am not clear on two points.<br><br> 1. Didn't the realtor who sold the building to NSA know that the planned <br>use was a violation of the zoning ordinance? Shouldn't she bea!
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<br>(financial) responsibility for this mess?<br><br><br> 2. Why didn't the city intervene and forbid the use of the property as a <br>college. Did they know what was to be done with the property or was NSA's <br>opening a surprise? If I open a small grocery store in my garage, zoned <br>R-2, I'm sure I'd be issued a zoning violation citation and forced to <br>close.<br><br> I seems so simple to me: the CBD is not zoned for a college, close them <br>down!<br><br> Bill Bonte<br><br> Hi Bill,<br><br> This is the timeline of events, as best I recall:<br><br> 1. The Verizon Building was sold by Bennett Realty, specifically by <br>Shelly Bennett. (I may be spelling her first name wrong. Perhaps it's <br>Shelley?) There was more than one bid for the building, and Doug Wilson's <br>was the lowest, not the highest. Why NSA won is anyone's guess. A tax <br>write-off for Verizon because they sold to a non-profit. (Yes, I know; that <br>opens up another ca!
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worms.)<br><br> 2. At the time of the Verizon sale, New St. Andrews was located -- <br>illegally -- in the home of Chris Schlect on Polk Street. The City told <br>Schlect and company that they could not operate a college in this <br>residential zone. The college continued to operate in that location until <br>the Verizon/Skattaboe Building was renovated and ready to be occupied.<br><br> 3. NSA moved into the Verizon/Skattaboe Building. They did not get and do <br>not now have an occupancy permit.<br><br> 4. Three evangelical Christians -- two former NSA students and one <br>ex-member of Christ Church -- filed a zoning complaint against NSA on the <br>grounds that educational institutions are prohibited in the Central <br>Business District. Why? Because the CBD was created to prevent the <br>encroachment of the U of I on downtown retail space. This happened in the <br>wake of the U of I's purchase of the old Murdock's Tavern and Cavenaugh's <br>Hotel.<br!
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5. Joel Plaskon ruled on behalf of the City that the complaint filed <br>against NSA was without merit or some such. (Mike Curley, the attorney for <br>the three plaintiffs, will perhaps supply the correct terminology.)<br><br> 6. Plaskon's ruling was appealed. The City Council then voted 4 to 2 that <br>NSA could not, in fact, be located in the Central Business District under <br>current zoning code.<br><br> 7. Someone or ones set in motion the current attempt to amend the city <br>zoning code so that NSA could remain downtown. I attended several city <br>planning and zoning meetings, ably chaired by Jerry Schutz, who earned my <br>eternal respect for his exemplary conduct of those hearings, during which <br>everyone was hot under the collar and pretty damned feisty. He never lost <br>his cool or, more importantly, his sense of humor and proportion. (I think <br>Jerry is a Republican, so coming from this Democrat, this praise is high <br>praise indeed.)<br><b!
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Planning and Zoning made a host of recommendations re: amending city <br>code to allow NSA downtown. The City Council rejected those and bounced the <br>whole thing back to P & Z, which worked again on this thankless task. The <br>fight now seems to be about parking rather than a straight up-or-down <br>should colleges be allowed in the Central Business District.<br><br> I say no; some say yes; others don't seem to give a tinker's damn. I envy <br>the latter group because they're not tempted to kick one another's teeth <br>down one another's throat over this issue. I'm sure they fight about other <br>things -- whether or not Moscow needs a ring road; water mining; the <br>proposed ball fields. Who knows? We're all different, and different things <br>push our buttons.<br><br> (Mine are pushed by people who call my friends "simpering douche bags." <br>I'm funny that way. I also don't much care for hectoring lurkers who get <br>hold of the wrong end of the !
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