<div id="RTEContent">Tom,<br> <br> We already have a skate board park, soccer field, baseball field, frisbee golf course and rock climbing wall in this town. Why not build something NEW that we do not have? How about a go-cart track, bowling ally, a miniature golf course, or how about a virtual reality arcade, bungee jumping tower, a larger senior center with a track of land for gardening? Why not a arts and crafts center for the community to learn about and share their arts and crafts, a place where community members can come together and spend time together talking about something other than politics? Or how about a senior day care center, they are popping up all over the US, places where younger than school age children get to spend time with senior citizens. This has proved to be beneficial to both the children and the seniors. How about a cultural teleconference center where we can talk to people from around the world v!
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internet in live video conferences and learn about other societies?<br> <br> I will not support another ball field or playground before we start doing somethings for other members of our community. I am tired of everything being about the young athletes in our community who are limited in Idaho only by their imaginations. So many, the majority of people in our community, are limited in what they can do by outdoor conditions, aging bones, joints and minds, and limited resources, yet we give them virtually nothing. It is a shameful reality. <br> <br> The City of Moscow does not need to build another climbing wall, we you can go climb a wall, tree, or go use the one in SRC. The City of Moscow does not need to build another park, ball field, or athletic facility, we got PLENTY. It needs something for those that are not young or athletic those that have nothing but the library which is understaffed, under-booked, and underfunded. <br> <br> Why can't the disabled!
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unathletic, uncoordinated, dorkish, nerdy, wobbly jointed, elderly, non-sportsman and women be given something besides the bill for the multi-million dollar athletic facilities with a large side of guilt for not supporting another new multi-million dollar athletic facility for athletes?<br> <br> I live next to four parks in Moscow, East City, Whitman, St. Joseph, and another little one in the next neighborhood over. Of I all the times I driven, walked, or seen them, they are hardly, if ever full or crowded, and if they are, it is for a short event. <br> <br> I think there are so many better ways to spend city dollars than on a place for the moving of a ball back and forth.<br> <br> -Take Care,<br> <br> Donovan J Arnold<br> <br> <br><br><b><i>Tom Ivie <the_ivies3@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div>Jeff, </div> <div>A couple of points you made!
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out to me. Specifically, in number 3 you mention skateboarding. I don't remember there being a skateboard feature to this big park, but it is an excellent idea. Maybe even a rock climbing feature (Moscow Rocks!) and a frisbee golf course. We should remember that not all athletes play soccer, baseball, football, etc. Many do, but they also cross-over, ie. football and rock climbing, or, soccer/baseball and skateboarding for example. It has been awhile since I saw the plan for the park, did it have any basketball hoops? If not, it should. The park would be made even better by your recommendation in number 4. A trail that off-shoots from the main Paradise Path to the park would give better access, and probably safer access, for kids and adults alike. -Tom<br><br><b><i>Jeff Harkins <jeffh@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:</div> <blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px;">After watching !
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"playfield issue" for several weeks now, some observations:<br><br>1. Youth sports activities are an important element of a family <br>oriented community. Having survived youth soccer for several years <br>(as a licensed coach, licensed referee, soccer association board <br>member and co-founder of the Palouse 5-a-side soccer tournament), I <br>can easily attest to the importance of additional playfields to meet <br>the demand for youth and community activities. Hours and hours of <br>negotiation with Parks and Rec, U of I, and churches were necessary <br>to find marginal practice and play areas for youth soccer. Similar <br>negotiations were necessary for community members involved in <br>softball, baseball, cross country, etc. There are more youth <br>involved in those activities today than there were when I was <br>actively participating.<br><br>2. With youth soccer, the N. Idaho league is very-well established <br>(Coeur d'Alene, Post Falls, Tri-Cities, Lewiston, Spok!
ane). Our
<br>facilities are not on a par with those communities against which the <br>Moscow teams compete. New soccer fields would help to increase the <br>number of venues we are able to host here. That not only benefits <br>our local businesses (and gets young folks in proximity to U of I, <br>but also helps our local parents - additional fields could make it <br>possible for our teams to host a few more venues so our parents and <br>kids have a few less trips out of town. I have heard from numerous <br>parents, whose kids are involved in other active team sports, <br>expressing similar views.<br><br>3. My former residence (Conestoga Dr) is just up the hill from the <br>proposed location and I am quite familiar with the terrain/proximity <br>issues. The proposed location would seem to be ideally suited to <br>allow the hundreds of young folks and active adults in the Frontier <br>and adjacent neighborhoods easy access to a ! large playfield. It would <br>be a site well-suited!
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anecdoctal frisbee playing, tag, pickup <br>games, skateboarding, etc. in addition to active team sports. It <br>also has great visibility from Palouse River Drive so activities of <br>the young folks would be observable. Coincidentally, I vividly <br>recall how important the development of the small park - just east of <br>proposed site - was to the neighborhood. Dozens of neighbors worked <br>to make that small strip park happen. But that site is ill-equipped <br>to handle the more active youth team sports.<br><br>4. The site location would lend itself to development of a bike trail <br>extension - connecting with the existing trail system - this would <br>likely have great appeal to the community.<br><br>5. Moscow is very well suited to handling a couple of hundred <br>visitors for a youth team event. After all, our community hosts a <br>number of athletic events weekly that attract thousands of visitors <br>(UI team sport! s)- and it doesn't seem to affect the overa!
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ambiance <br>of our life here in a college town. Quite the contrary, it seems to <br>energize our community. If there are concerns about traffic flow, <br>then bring some of our local civil engineers in to reframe the <br>access/egress issues. But the limited amount of traffic involved, <br>relative to the traffic issues that are presented in that <br>neighborhood during football weekends is seemingly trivial.<br><br>6. The sound system issue seems quite easy to resolve. We have <br>numerous sound engineers in the community - engage them to design and <br>test various configurations and measure the decibel levels in the <br>neighboring areas. I am quite confident that the sound level can be <br>designed to specifications that would produce sound at levels far <br>below other noise systems (Greek Row, Kibbie Dome, etc.).<br><br>I cannot help but think about the success of the LCSC participation <br>in baseball and the benefits that venue! has provided to the Lewiston <b!
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have visited their baseball stadium (a far more extensive <br>facility than proposed here) and have walked the neighborhood around <br>their facility. The noise emanating from that facility is far less <br>than the noise levels imposed on East City Park neighbors numerous <br>times a year. But, the benefits of all those folks having fun far <br>outweigh the costs imposed by their facility - it seems likely that a <br>similar experience could be had here.<br><br>7. I am quite surprised by the "Arboretum issue". The Arboretum is <br>not a private park intended for only a designated segment of the <br>Moscow community. It is a public facility that is intended to <br>educate the public about the importance of managed green space <br>areas. Providing visitors to our community close proximity to the <br>Arboretum, especially young people, helps to expose them to the <br>importance of the green-space resource. A playfield space adjacent <br>to ! the Arboretum provides an oppor!
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extend the Arboretum into <br>the playfield area. This may be our best chance to develop our own <br>version of a "Julia Davis" resource.<br><br>But, bottom line, the Arboretum is a shared resource and the more we <br>can share it, the more people will learn from it and respect it - and <br>more than likely provide resources to continue its development. The <br>proposed athletic facility would offer the Arboretum an opportunity <br>to extend the managed "green space" to include a river/stream ecosystem. Wow!<br><br>8. Finally, consider the long-term development of the Palouse River <br>Drive area. It is not a matter of whether that area will develop, <br>but how and what will find its way into that corridor. Placing a <br>large "green space" there can be a significant footprint that will <br>impact that neighborhood in very positive ways. For example, if the <br>95 bypass can be constructed just west of there (along the ID/WA <br>border)! , traffic issues are now routed!
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