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<DIV><FONT size=4>Nick writes:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Phil joins Biblical absolutists such as Doug Wilson (his new term to
describe himself) in condemning all Bible scholars who do not agree with their
traditional view of Jewish or Christian doctrine."</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>While I do not accuse Phil of this, it is not surprising that
Cultmaster Wilson should call himself a Biblical Absolutist (meaning his
exclusive interpretation of the Bible). Such aggrandizing of himself is
just another instance of his out of control egomania and
megalomania.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Perhaps a few remember this revealing snippet from the
corrections in the <EM>Daily News</EM>:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>________________________________________________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">ACCURACY
MATTERS<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
/><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Christ</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></SPAN></st1:place><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> pastor Doug Wilson
was incorrectly quoted in the weekend paper due to a <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Daily News</I> error.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In the front page
article headlined, "Both sides point fingers; can there be
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">a middle ground?"
<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Wilson</st1:City></st1:place> was quoted as
saying:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I've never been in
anything like this, and I've never changed my views on
anything."<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">What he actually
said was:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"I've
never been in anything like this, </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">and
I've never changed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><FONT
size=7>I've never changed what I do</FONT>,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">
<FONT color=#0000ff>[sic]</FONT> I've not changed anything.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>_______________________________________________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">When anyone
says:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT size=3>"I've never changed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>I've never
changed what I do</FONT></STRONG>, [sic] I've not changed
anything."<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Most would take the ordinary
meaning of this most curious and revealing utterance as:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I have never made a
mistake!!!"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">For those Christians who believe
that in some unfathomable, non-linguistically-intelligible/expressible way their
alleged God, alleged Holy Ghost, and Jesus are one and the same, the only being
who could assert that she/he/it has never made a mistake is an incarnations of
</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">GOD
HIMSELF</SPAN></B><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Hence, the above quote from Cult
Master Wilson is equivalent to saying:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"I am
God!!!"</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Can you say "Are we dealing with
severe mental health problems here?"?</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In my opinion t</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">hose that take or pretend to take
Wilson seriously must either be economically dependent upon him, or are
unwholesomely ovine, have very deep needs that beclouds their judgment, and/or
have some seriously unresolved problems for which such blind,
irrational faith acts as a mask.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I wonder what would happen to the
Christ Church Cult if they instituted a conflict of interest by-law similar to
that of many honest, adherent to basic Christianity churches:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=#0000ff>No one shall
serve as an elder or deacon who is economically dependent upon in any manner or
related by blood or marriage to any paid church employee or religious
professional.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Just as a far-fetched guess, if
the Christ Church Cult were to implement such a policy, there would be some
drastic changes both in personnel and in community relations.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN> </P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "Nicholas Gier" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu"><FONT size=4>ngier@uidaho.edu</FONT></A><FONT
size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:15 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: [Vision2020] Does Phil Nisbet Practice
Anti-Gentilism?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> Greetings:<BR>> <BR>>
Before making the point in the title, I have to explain the delay in <BR>>
posting my response to Phil Nisbet's critique of my post "The <BR>>
Deceptions of War." I had to do a lot of fact checking, and then make
<BR>> sure that I got in my daily ski run on the golf course and my <BR>>
afternoon faculty union recruitment on the UI campus, which I've been <BR>>
doing for the last two weeks. And then there was the exhausting five
<BR>> hour City Council meeting on Monday night. Many people left after the
<BR>> zoning hearing but I stayed on for the ballfields debate.<BR>>
<BR>> In recent post Phil again charged me with the sin of anti-Semitism. By
<BR>> the same perverse reasoning, I guess I could call his unfair attack
<BR>> on Deceptions of War a case of anti-Gentilism, but I will not play a
<BR>> silly and demeaning tit for tat game.<BR>> <BR>> But I will make
one comment. The implication of Phils charge is that <BR>> the many Jewish
scholars in the American Academy of Religion, from <BR>> whom Ive learned
much about the Hebrew religion contained in the <BR>> Hebrew Bible, are
anti-Semitic as well. Reductio ad absurdum!<BR>> <BR>> Perhaps Phil
still fails to appreciate the distinction between the <BR>> scholarly study
of texts on the one hand, and the practice of a <BR>> religion that includes
scripture, ritual, and tradition. For example, <BR>> the former study
concludes that there is no evidence for an afterlife <BR>> in the Hebrew
Bible, but the latter maintains that belief, at least in <BR>> the tradition
of the Pharisees. Phil must know that prior to the <BR>> Pharisees, the
Saducees rejected life after death and the resurrection <BR>> of the body,
views consistent with the Hebrew Bible.<BR>> <BR>> Phil joins Biblical
absolutists such as Doug Wilson (his new term to <BR>> describe himself) in
condemning all Bible scholars who do not agree <BR>> with their traditional
view of Jewish or Christian doctrine.<BR>> <BR>> Nick Gier<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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